https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33104

James Forrester <[email protected]> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
            Summary|Unable to create            |Parsoid: Unable to create
                   |[[a]]-style link using      |[[a]]-style link
                   |VisualEditor extension      |

--- Comment #12 from James Forrester <[email protected]> 2012-06-26 
03:21:51 UTC ---
The (In reply to comment #11)
> (In reply to comment #10)
> > I assume you mean [[page title]] over [[Page_title|page title]]? Obviously 
> > this
> > is wiki-dependent (whether $wgCapitalLinks is true or not).
> 
> Given that underscores and spaces are identical to MediaWiki, I'm not sure 
> what
> distinction you're making here.

The design brief for the VisualEditor/Parsoid combo is to be as close as
possible to the same as real human wikitext - which means, amongst other
things, writing links like a human would (and never ever changing one written
by an actual human).

> > Also, should things like [[X (foo)|]] auto-conversion on save to [[X 
> > (foo)|X]]
> > be supported? This won't be used by VisualEditor, but might by something 
> > else
> > and if Parsoid is to become feature-compatible...
> 
> As far as I'm aware, the current thinking on the pipe trick is that it should
> ideally not be doing transformations on the wikitext itself and that doing so
> (the current behavior) is a bug, not a feature. That is, when a user enters
> "[[Foo (bar)|]]", the current MediaWiki parser will change this to "[[Foo
> (bar)|Foo]]" on page save and render the result as "Foo".


Thinking by whom? It's a widely-used long-term feature. If people believe they
can switch it off as a 'bug fix', I predict that users will be unhappy. Burning
our social capital like this seems... ill-prioritised.

> In an ideal world
> (according to some other bug I don't care to look up), the wikitext would stay
> "[[Foo (bar)|]]" and would render as "Foo" (as though it had gone through the
> magical transformation).

Didn't come up in a search for me, unless I mis-read the results. Would value
the actual bug ref. if you can find it! :-)

> That said, the pipe trick is annoying (and somewhat expensive) to support and
> given that the broader goal is to move away from wikitext altogether, I'm not
> sure the pipe trick is something worth preserving going forward. But this is
> all outside the scope of this bug.

I'd argue that it's not outwith the scope of a bug in the Parsoid talking about
this behaviour, which is what this is. :-)

-- 
Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email
------- You are receiving this mail because: -------
You are on the CC list for the bug.

_______________________________________________
Wikibugs-l mailing list
[email protected]
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l

Reply via email to