https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42085

--- Comment #20 from Krinkle <[email protected]> 2012-11-19 02:59:54 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #19)
> (In reply to comment #18)
> > No, we don't discuss it there. I've undid the dependency on bug 21572. For
> > short urls intended for sharing articles on subjects we want title ids, not
> > page ids. 
> 
> The "sharing articles on subjects" is a very rare use-case, nobody except us
> wikignomes cares about exact titles and
> the-content-which-is-not-there-but-eventually-will-because-so-MOS-commands; 
> see
> bug 21572 comment 27.
> 

It isn't a rare use case. In fact, it is the only use case we should care
about. What is slightly rare, however, is the case where using titles or
pageids makes a difference. And when there is a difference, the title will be
the right choice (as the pageid will likely be no longer visible, or refer to a
title that is about a subset or superset of the subject (delete, split or
merge).

> > There is no further discussion or implementation needed, the ShortUrl
> > extension already implements the title id concept and has been deployed on
> > several wikis. It is working fine.
> 
> Maybe. Anyway, as you pointed out yourself in comment 1, it doesn't address
> what comment 0 asked. I guess we have at least three different things asked
> here; we already have a request for one of them, I'll now open the remaining
> two to track the plan more clearly.

Don't twist my words ;-). There is two parts to this service in the current
schedule: An implementation on the MediaWiki side, and a redirect set up from a
short domain. I'm not sure what you meant by "it doesn't address what was
asked" since ShortUrl implements exactly what was asked as regarding
software/database implementation. All it needs further is a short domain, which
we'll need regardless of the implementation and the domain not related to the
short-id database itself.

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