https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42316

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             Bug #: 42316
           Summary: 'createtalk' + 'edit' right is not enough to create a
                    MediaWiki talk: page
           Product: MediaWiki
           Version: unspecified
          Platform: All
               URL: https://es.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki_d
                    iscusi%C3%B3n:Gadget-AjaxPatrolLinks.js&action=edit&us
                    elang=en
        OS/Version: All
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: Unprioritized
         Component: General/Unknown
        AssignedTo: [email protected]
        ReportedBy: [email protected]
                CC: [email protected]
    Classification: Unclassified
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«You do not have permission to create discussion pages, for the following
reason: <Debes estar registrado para crear esta página.>»

es.wiki, being the most restrictive of Wikimedia projects, kindly reminds us
how a newbie (non-autoconfirmed) feels like (for the first 50 edits, here!).
Newbies have both 'edit' and 'createtalk' right (yes I read bug 26703), so they
should definitely be able to create talk pages in MediaWiki talk namespace.
(Actually, they even have 'createpage'; even more confusing.)
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:ListaDerechosGrupos

I don't see any per-namespace restriction on
https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php ,
there are no protections in place and the page is not linked from any page so
cascade protection can't be the cause either.
https://es.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Especial%3ALoQueEnlazaAqu%C3%AD&target=MediaWiki_discusi%C3%B3n%3AGadget-AjaxPatrolLinks.js
There are other possibilities but this seems a core bug.

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