https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45596

--- Comment #6 from Bartosz Dziewoński <[email protected]> ---
(In reply to comment #5)
> Seems good to me, but I'll ask more knowledgeable people as well. Will there
> be
> a way to override the default placements? Foreign words should not be
> categorized under a digraph even if they are written the same way (e.g. the
> Tycho crater should be under T, not TY); there is of course no way to
> automatize that, bus something like {{#DEFAULTSORT:Tycho|T}} would be nice.

Good point, I didn't think of that. I tested and this seems possible by using a
[[zero-width non-joiner]] – you could place a {{DEFAULTSORT:T&zwnj;ycho}} on
the page with such name to force it to behave correctly. This forces the "t"
and "y" to be considered separately, and the non-joiner itself has no effect
during sorting. (See that test category again.)

With Scribunto/Lua now being deployed, this could be easily be made into a
template, looking and behaving somewhat like [[Template:lowercase title]], so
that editors wouldn't have to worry about the strange syntax. 


----

Also, please hold a community discussion/voting on the Hungarian Wikipedia
about this change, even if it's just a formality. I am not a WMF employee, but
their policy is clear – a configuration change (especially one that is this
disruptive) can only be made if there's obvious consensus. You can link the
Hungarian testwiki I created there.

There's no hurry, especially since this change can only be made after MW
1.21wmf11 is deployed on March 13.

Here's a very similar voting/discussion I created on pl.wikipedia, regarding
the same change, but for Polish: short explanation, voting and comments with
yes/no icons.

https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PR#Zmiana_konfiguracji_.E2.80.93_w.C5.82.C4.85czenie_poprawnego_sortowania_artyku.C5.82.C3.B3w_na_stronach_kategorii

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