https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46058

--- Comment #5 from Ronnie <la.val...@yahoo.se> ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> Icu seems to support making custom collations at run time (based on docs).
> However php's intl extension doesnt seem to expose this. So we are probably
> left with hacking it over top (aka turn w to v before feeding it to icu). Or
> somehow getting upstream to make a sv historical collation (they already
> have 2
> sv collations - reformed and normal) however that would probably be a
> difficult
> process I imagine. I suppose third option is getting php upstream to expose
> custom collation maling methods
> 
> To clarify, when you say sort the same way do you mean totally identical, or
> just primary identical? (The sort algorithm has 3 levels. We check the
> primary
> level first ( ie different letters: A vs B) if there is a tie on that level
> for
> all letters then we move on to check accents (roughly). If there is a tie
> again
> we move on to checking case distinction. In your case it sounds like you
> would
> want V and W to be the same on the primary level but different on the
> secondary
> level - is that the case? (Which might be a moot point since the hack over
> top
> solution would only allow making them identical.)

If there are two pages with the defaultsort "Vallenberg" and "Wallenberg", I
think "V" should be sorted before "W" as if "W" was a diacritic of "V", but it
is not critical. Earlier "W" was just regarded as another way of writing "V".
The letter "W" was almost only used in names and foreign words. Then somebody
invented 'World Wide Web', and you know the rest of the story better than me...

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