https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46322
--- Comment #1 from Krinkle <krinklem...@gmail.com> --- Aggregating various arguments that apply generally to moving them out (as opposed to moving any specific bot): (Quote bug 46282 comment #0) > The only times I've found it useful is when I was live reviewing and wanted > to point someone to a change/comment I made. (Quote bug 46282 comment #1) > Use /ignore in your favorite IRC client. Works well. (Quote bug 46282 comment #2) > I disagree with "it's completely useless", but in this case, when someone > knows he is going to spam the channel and has op on #mediawiki, he should > have quieted [the bot] before sending all those changes. (Quote bug 46282 comment #6) > We're going to move both. Need puppet changes. (Quote bug 46144 comment 5) > We actively had a user saying "This channel obviously isn't for support...two > pages of scrollback and I've spotted 2 real people." This is a bad thing, > contrary to what you may think. > > We've had *contributors* complaining about the bot(s) for the past couple of > months/years. > > I really don't think two/three people saying "I LIKE THE BOT IN #MEDIAWIKI SO > LEAVE IT THE HELL ALONE" trumps the wider problems here...that the bot > *needs* > to go. (Quote bug 46144 comment 8) > Lets take this the mailing list again... > > (But my two cents) > If we kick any single bot, Gerrit produces a-lot more cruft lately than > wikibugs... I, as having pointed out would prefer them all in a separate > channel that is moderated and only the bots are voiced. (Quote bug 46144 comment 19) > (Quote bug 46144 comment 18) > > That's not a valid reason, imho. We need a way to tone down what it reports, > > if > > it's going to stay...the rate of bug reporting & commenting is many times > > greater than it once was. It's definitely gotten noisier over the years, > > which > > has reduced its utility. > > Reduced it's utility -> in the main support channel. The bot *is* useful, I > just think it drowns out conversation these days. (Quote bug 46144 comment 26) > What about moving them to #wikimedia-dev instead of #mediawiki? > > I think most (actively involved) developers that are on IRC aren't disturbed > by > the feed. If they really must they're experienced enough to not be afraid of > a > simple /ignore. > > Though I speak only for myself, I believe those that do want the feed, would > prefer it to be in context of regular conversation, not in a separate > channel. > > It's where random bits of interesting things come by from (e.g. discussing a > change, proposing and and then someone does it or files a bug about it). > > It doesn't work when in a separate channel. > > See also #mediawiki-parsoid, #mediawiki-visualeditor, #wikimedia-operations, > #wikimedia-mobile etc. (and same for third parties such as #jquery-dev and > webkit). > > The problem is mainly with #mediawiki being a support channel instead of dev > channel, not with having notifications in a human-occupied irc channel in > general. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. _______________________________________________ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
