https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47946

--- Comment #5 from ShoeMaker <[email protected]> ---
(In reply to comment #4)
> (In reply to comment #3)
> > (In reply to comment #3)
> > > Certain accounts should to be excluded from generating notifications,
> > > such as Signbot, Hostbot, etc. There are a few different ways we could
> > > solve this, but one would be an on-wiki configurable blacklist.
> > 
> > This should be a per-user configurable list.  Some people might want to
> > receive notifications when a certain bot uses their name.  For example,
> > I would like to know what pages HostBot uses my name on.
> 
> Per-user configurable lists dramatically increases the complexity of the use
> cases that have to be supported.

I understand this, however, wouldn't it be possible to have the blanket
black-list for the site, and then allow people to white-list the ones the want
over-riding the blacklist for them?

> Additionally, implementing it in this fashion makes things very awkward for
> new users - who presumably start off /without/ a per-user blacklist.

See response above... Would start with a blanket black-list which removes this
concern.

> > I also think it would be useful for people to know when sinebot signs for
> > them (unless they've opted out), but the people on who's page sinebot is
> > signing  should not be notified of a new message on their talk page every
> > time sinebot signs for someone.
> Can you explain the use case for this?

It would serve as a reminder for new users to sign their posts if they got a
message every time they forgot, making them more likely to remember to sign it
in the future.  For that matter, if it is not worth it to allow this here,
perhaps sinebot itself could be modified to post a reminder on the talk page of
the user that forgot everytime it has to sign for them.  Of course, if the opt
out of automatic signatures with the template, they wouldn't get the reminder.

> > I can understand the concern with pages as well for things like SPI and ANI,
> > but am curious how someone knowing they are being investigated could affect
> > the investigation.  I mean, either it will be a hint that they need to
> > shape up and apologize and if they really do mean well, they will do that.
> > If it is an SPI investigation for someone that only means to do harm, then
> > seeing they are being investigated won't make them do less harm
> > (although it might make them change IPs causing them to be harder to track).
> A lot of people who are prominent long-term abusers are, frankly,
> attention-seeking. Giving them attention is by definition negative for the
> project.

Yes, I entirely agree with this; however, I feel that by not allowing those
mentioned on those page to see the mentions would be a complete assumption of
bad faith and against the one of the very moral fibers of what Wikipedia is.

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