https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49686

--- Comment #37 from kipod <[email protected]> ---
(In reply to comment #22)
> 
> If accidental insertion of wikitext is still an issue, we should focus on
> other
> ways to mitigate that issue.

2 things: 
1) it's not an "if", and i do not think you guys should wait for the community
to prove it to you. you should go hunt for it, so you can see for yourselves
that it *is* an issue (hint: look for edits with "visualeditor" tag that added
<nowiki>: approximately 100% of those represent the problems. you have to tools
to actually measure it across all projects where VE is enabled by default).
2) "focus on other ways to mitigate that issue": how about solving bug 51897,
instead of marking it "low" and basically ignoring it? this *is* exactly "other
ways to mitigate that issue". 
or ,alternatively, find a better way to solve it: right now, it seems the team
is saying "we'll focus on other ways to mitigate the issue", but they do not
actually mean it: what other ways? who is working on it? what do they do? where
is the "focus"?
what you guys are doing today does not look very much like "focus" - it looks
much more like ignoring the issue and hoping the problem will go away by
itself.



(In reply to comment #18)
> Sorry, but this is not something we'll ever do, as I explained in comment 9.
> It's not simply a matter of prioritization - it's a matter of ensuring we can
> provide a user experience that's not modeled on markup, but on best user
> experience practices. As James said, we provide keyboard shortcuts, and will
> provide other user interfaces optimized for markup. But parsing markup within
> the visual editing context is completely off the table.

this is nothing more and nothing less than saying "it's so because i said so". 
you made a bad decision. that's something that happened in life to (almost) all
of us. the problem is not so much this bad decision - the problem your refusal
to accept that it was a bad decision, and you insistence that it was a good
decision, in face of all the evidence.


The reason i am writing this is because nowhere can i find any indication that
the VE team actually changed its mind or at least decided to reconsider. 
it is very much possible that the team actually *did* decide to reconsider, and
i just missed it. if this is the case, please be graceful and ignore my rant.

peace.

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