https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56537
Web browser: --- Bug ID: 56537 Summary: The very name "BetaFeatures" is really really bad Product: MediaWiki extensions Version: unspecified Hardware: All OS: All Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: Unprioritized Component: BetaFeatures Assignee: wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org Reporter: matma....@gmail.com CC: fflo...@wikimedia.org, mtrac...@member.fsf.org Classification: Unclassified Mobile Platform: --- I realize it's probably already water under the bridge, but I believe this should be said anyway. Just WONTFIX the bug if we can't do anything about it. The name "BetaFeatures" is bad. Like, really bad. And I don't think this is just my personal opinion (but I don't like it personally either). * We have so many things named "beta" right now live on the wikis that it's not even funny. VisualEditor is beta. MobileFrontend has some beta stuff. Now we're also going to have "beta" features. Depending on the person, the "beta" label has either lost its meaning or is negatively associated with past deployment failures. * It's non-descriptive. It may be the non-native English speaker in me, but it sounds like marketing-speech. "beta" doesn't mean much these days (see point 1); "feature" is a catch-all buzzword. * It's stupidly hard to translate: * Most languages don't even have a word for "beta" – unless somebody talented does the translation, these will keep using the English word in likely very awkward ways – most of currently translated messages just keep the "beta" label tacked onto a normal word: [[translatewiki:Special:Translations/Mediawiki:Prefs-betafeatures]], some went with "experimental" instead. * Similarly, most languages don't have a word for "feature" – in the link above, most translations say the equivalent of "functionality" or "function", and neither is a friendly word. Basically, any translation of this will consist solely of English/Latin loanwords in almost all languages, which may make it sound "remote" or "unfriendly". So what do we do about it? * We can try renaming the project. We could go with the lowest friction option and call it "Experimental features", which would be at least a little better. * Or we could use others' experiences and name that section "Laboratory", which would also give us an obvious, clear icon to use (laboratory beaker) – Google does this with their experimental options and it has always seemed like a great idea to me. No idea if "rebranding" as this point is still viable – it might be possible, as I don't think it was widely announced yet. But I'm just saying. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. _______________________________________________ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l