https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56974

       Web browser: Opera
            Bug ID: 56974
           Summary: New messages notification does not appear without
                    JavaScript
           Product: MediaWiki extensions
           Version: unspecified
          Hardware: All
               URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(
                    technical)#Second_class_citizens
                OS: All
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: Unprioritized
         Component: Echo
          Assignee: [email protected]
          Reporter: [email protected]
                CC: [email protected], [email protected],
                    [email protected]
    Classification: Unclassified
   Mobile Platform: ---

MediaWiki 1.23wmf2 on the English Wikipedia, from discussion at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Second_class_citizens

If JavaScript is disabled in the browser (or the browser does not support
JavaScript), new talk page messages do not cause a "you have new messages"
notification to appear. The usual red "1" does appear, but is small enough to
be easily missed (and also appears for less important notifications).

This only applies to the new talk notification used with Echo. The classic
"Orange Bar Of Doom" seen by IP address users works fine without JavaScript.

Should it be technically difficult to implement the new talk notification
without JavaScript, my next preference would be for an alternative that fulfils
the same purpose even if visually different. (Could be the classic OBOD or
something else.)

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