https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50714
--- Comment #13 from [email protected] --- The DJ, thanks for your response, but I fear that it is again symptomatic of the incorrect view you and other devs seem to have. VisualEditor is ''not'' the goal, it is a means to make editing easier. Comments like "Ideally, we would just get rid of absolute positioned elements (.topicon, coordinates, FA/GA etc icons), but that's probably going to be near impossible." are so wrong that I feel it may be hard to explain to you what is the problem with it. There is absolutely ''nothing'' ideal about getting rid of these elements, they are a very useful aspect of maps and other position-defined elements. If VE can't handle these, then VE has to change or an alternative method that can be used in view mode and VE mode needs to be found. But "VE can't handle this, so we should get rid of these elements"? No, that's the opposite mindset of what we actually need. As for "nor is it extremely visible to the uninitiated.", have you looked at pages like [[:en:FC Barcelona]] or [[:en:ant]]? I think most of the "uninitiated" would notice some differences in the display between [[:fr:Azincourt]] and [https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azincourt?veaction=edit this] (cause this bug happens on all wikis, not just here...) This bug happens on about 1 in 5 pages. I don't see how this can be both "low" and "minor" in importance, either one should be a lot higher (a minor aspect that affects an awful lot of pages on all wiki versions is a lot more important than a minor aspect that only affects a few hundred pages, obviously). On a fair number of pages (e.g. the football kit ones, 25000 on enwiki alone, but also e.g. [https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Saint-Germain?veaction=edit here]), this bug (assuming it is the same one) is very pronounced, so not so minor anyway. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. _______________________________________________ Wikibugs-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
