Bug ID: 62984
           Summary: Feature Request: different titel from lemma name
           Product: MediaWiki
           Version: unspecified
          Hardware: All
                OS: All
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: Unprioritized
         Component: JavaScript
       Web browser: ---
   Mobile Platform: ---

Wikipedia hosts pages in dialects of languages which have no standardized form
to write. In e.g. German, all people use the standard German for writing,
independent what dialect they actually speak.

This causes problems in such Wikipedia communities on about how to name a
lemma. Some create lemmas in the dialect which leads to movements if another
contributor - often from the specific region the lemma talks about - speaks or
writes it in another way. Or someone thinks later that the titel should better
be written it in another way, etc.
Such a contributor creates a redirect from the old lemma's name to the new one
or not. Since there're various ways how to speak and write a dialect, this
leads to a confusing crowd of redirects to a lemma by time which becomes very
unhandy to manage.
Additionally, because it's difficult for readers, but even for native dialect
speakers to find out how a lemma could have been named, a redirect in the
standard language is necessary for every lemma.

Therefore, e.g. the Alemannic Wikipedia
( organizes lemmata
consequently in standard German and change the titel of a lemma to Alemannic by
a template ( and Javascript
( This solution prevents all
redirects in standard language as well as as movements and thus redirects. The
discussion on how to organize this effectively arose currently in the Palatine
Wikipedia, too (

But the solution of the Alemannic Wikipedia stopped working in the past after
MediaWiki had been developed. Mr. Brion VIBBER
( succesfully
helped to fix it. The community of a dialect Wikipedia is usually too small to
be able to maintain such a solution locally in cases of a change in MediaWiki.

The feature request is now to include/adapt the solution of the Alemannic
Wikipedia as standard for Wikipedia written in a dialect, i.e. to include the
possibility to create lemmata in the standard language and change its titel to
the actual dialect's speaking. 

Thank you for consideration the request. Manuae

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