https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5451

--- Comment #23 from John Mark Vandenberg <[email protected]> ---
(In reply to Philippe Verdy from comment #22)
> (In reply to John Mark Vandenberg from comment #21)
> > Another way to improve the situation is for the output of the target
> > (reached via a redirect) to say more than 'redirected from [category:old
> > category]'.  If automatic category member moving is not implemented, it
> > could say 'redirected from [category:old category] which has 10 members',
> > which alerts the reader to the fact that they should visit the old category.
> 
> That's clearly not needed ! We don't have to use any template in the target
> category, only the soft-redirected category uses a template that will
> automatically recategorize as a subcategory of the target category, using a
> sort key listing it with an index character like a backward arrow.
> 
> I don't see any rationale for modifying the target category (i.e. the former
> category page that has been moved).

I only suggested a possible improvement to the *automated* 'redirected from'
message.

> Listing the older category as a
> subcategory, as long as it is not empty, is enough !!! (and this works well
> in Commons, Meta-Wiki, Wikipedia... except that sometime we need to
> null-edit the empty soft-redirected category to unlist it from the target
> category and remove if from the maintenance category listing non-empty
> soft-redirected categories)

This is a solution which will continue to work.

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