https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62598

--- Comment #163 from Lupo <lupo.bugzi...@gmail.com> ---
(In reply to Florian from comment #162)
> It seems, that there are still very useless images. The last days statistic:
> 
> 24. Aug: 90% useless
> 25. Aug: 82% useless
> 26. Aug: 100% useless
> 
> The rule implementation itself works good, but it seems, that the rules
> itself doesn't help to improve the quality of uploads :/

That is absolutely correct.

All the measures implemented so far have helped reduce the volume of uploads
through mobile/web, but the have not improved the success ratio at all.

The hope had been, if I understood this correctly, that by introducing minimum
limits for this functionality we would get less clueless people using it, and
of those remaining more would have a clue what this is about.

However, this did not happen. Most people using this feature still have no clue
about copyrights, free licenses, or the Commons, and still upload the same kind
of crap as before July 10. Just that we now get instead of 200 problematic
uploads daily around 25-60 per day.

I see nearly no experienced uploaders using the feature. I don't know why that
is so, but I might think that more experienced people typically upload more
than just one or two pictures at a time and prefer to use the desktop upload
wizard or one of the external batch upload tools for that. So mobile/web upload
is completely uninteresting for experienced users. (That's my personal
speculation, though.)

Most uploaders using the feature are still clueless; many are drive-by
uploaders.

As a result, we still have an upload channel through which nearly no useful but
many problematic images come in, and that still has to be monitored closely.

Increasing the minimum limits for using the feature will only reduce the volume
even more. It will _not_ attract experienced people who know about copyrights
and free licenses and the Commons to use mobile/web uploads, and it will also
_not_ solve the systemic problem that the workflow is utterly wrong for
anything but really self-taken photos. (The workflow caters well to that one
use case, but it does nothing at all to discourage the undesirable use cases
that are, unfortunately, the norm.)

I therefore would like to take up Max Semenik's promise in bug 68375 comment 7:
Please switch off mobile/web uploads altogether until a better approach has
been developed.

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