https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66021
--- Comment #11 from Isarra <[email protected]> --- (In reply to Erwin Dokter from comment #10) > I have no clear preference between #000000 and #252525. In fact, I see > little difference between the two (on a properly set CRT CRTs tend to have much higher contrast than LCD monitors, so either colour would probably look exactly the same there. Those are a whole different monster. > I do have a problem with the arguments that we need to fix our presentation > for people that do not know how to set up their monitor. That, I think, *is* > a fallacy. Most monitors sold under $1000 -- even sub $500 ones -- are > perfectly adequate out of the box. Those still using older monitors are very > few. I would consider $500-1000 monitors to be fairly high-end as well. They're not the best you can get, but they tend to be good. Even those vary, of course, but that's fine, normally. Normally the only problem is when they're set up with too much contrast, and that's what tends to lead to eye-strain and other problems, and which was apparently the reason for using non-black colours in the first place. And you're right, fixing the presentation for improperly-set up monitors doesn't make sense. > You need proper statistics about the penetration of bad monitors. In my > field as internet installer, I have seen very few -- less then 1% in my best > estimate -- bad or badly set-up monitors. While that may not be the most representative sample, I think an important question here is what is bad? I consider my monitors bad, but that's when including medical-grade monitors in the scale. Those are the sort of monitors where the colours have to be completely exact so a doctor can tell if an organ is discoloured, or if something is a shadow or a real problem, etc. For normal use, nobody cares about that sort of thing. Mine, like most others, are perfectly fine, despite all their minor variations. The problems only really arise when designers have closer to medical-grade and then expect everyone else to also have that, and greys are dangerous only when you try to use them for things that are conceptually not supposed to be grey. Conceptually, text is black. We print with black ink. It may wind up appearing as grey depending on the type of ink and how the light falls, but the exact same thing applies to monitors. We shouldn't be mimicking the process before it even happens. > We should accomodate for most readers, but we cannot accomodate *all* > readers; that is simply an impossible task. Yes. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. _______________________________________________ Wikibugs-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
