https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25676

--- Comment #8 from Michael Dale <[email protected]> 2011-03-24 09:31:43 UTC ---
As previously mentioned [1] the reported CSRF was fixed within hours of it
being reported. If there is an outstanding actual issue please do file the bug
or please do highlight something other than what has already been fixed ages
ago.  

Proposals to address protocol concerns have been made: ie numbered chunks in
request and response, and a 5 min time out. These propsals were made directly
to Tim Starling one year ago on 03/18/2010 by the firefogg author, which
revived no reply. 

Then again revisited by Mark Hershbergs work to re-factor the chunk support on
04/08/2010 again with request for private comment with no response. 

Then again publicly on the mailing list Tim suggested a 3rd party chunk
protocol that was practically identical to the firefogg protocol, leaving a
hanging inquiry by Neil "What in your view would a better version look like?
The PLupload protocol seems quite similar. I might be missing some 
subtle difference." [2]

If there is an actual proposal ( i.e not a impossible to disprove negative ),
please please please do make thous comments, bug or proposal known. I don't see
how repeating the phrase "buggy and potentially insecure" is constructive. 

It is true chunk uploading can be implemented in native browser XHR which is
fine and good. But this still requires a "chunks" support extension similar to
the extension associated with this bug request. A distinction should be made
between the browser ad-on and the server side chunk support. This bug refers to
the server side chunk support which has little to do with browser ad-on.

We can rename the extension to "chunked upload" since clearly some people may
have some aversions to the word "firefogg"?

And of course native browser XHR will not support transcoding proprietary video
files into free codecs, and for cases where the user wants to upload a video
clip in a non-free format recommending firefogg is perfectly reasonable, and
not dependent on chunk uploading being enabled at all, since firefogg can just
as well send the file as via a single file POST request. 

Independently of whether the firefogg software is "total crap" or not ...
Firefogg is a widely used Firefox ad-on for converting media files in browser,
many commons users are already using it via the firefogg.org/make page for
their video conversions, its recommended on commons, used in gadgets ( in POST
mode ), mentioned and recommended by many 3rd party sites, has thousands of
installs etc. So ... if there are actual issue we would do good to report them. 

Tim is correct that there has not been much followup on this chunk effort as
people have been busy. But I don't think that a valid reason to classify as
"WONTFIX", the issues that have been raised have been addressed and some
integration work remains to be done. If there are other issues to be addressed
they should be made known.

We should not have the feature set dismissed with broad impossible to disprove
negative generalizations without any course of action for those that see value
in this feature set. 

If some practical alternative for large file uploads is to be proposed, then it
should be proposed rather than dismissing efforts to address the issue without
recourse for years at a time. 

[1] http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg08219.html
[2] http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg08199.html

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