https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23427

--- Comment #20 from Waldir <[email protected]> 2011-08-02 14:42:28 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #18)
> So before we go and introduce this. Can we please get back or describe a
> usecase for this ?
> 
> The original request wanted to the author username and/or permalink to the
> first revision, that's not what introducing {{PAGEID}} will do.
No, that was just miscommunication. The author did clarify his original
intentions later on: "The purpose of this bug was to get an ID which is not
changeable as editing for a certain page progresses over time. (...) {{PAGEID}}
would serve this purpose and to have it would be very cool."

> At some later point there were references to *JavaScript* variables named
> wgArticleId which already work in MediaWiki and have been for sometime, so we
> won't need {{PAGEID}} in *wikitext* for that.
We do if we want to use it in templates, as Bawolff suggested.

> I'm in general a bit leery on introducing magic words, especially ones that
> work on top of technical implementation details which are usually not
> interesting to the user.
I think Bawolff's short link proposal would be of interest. Granted, curid
links aren't supposed to be a 100% stable permalinks, but the uses for a short
url are mostly ephemeral / informal. For example, to share a Signpost article
on Twitter, etc. It's not a big deal if the link eventually rots, especially
since that's very unlikely (tough not impossible) to happen. In any case, we do
rot links daily when deleting articles, so I don't think this should be an
impediment.

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