https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27744
--- Comment #4 from Purodha Blissenbach <[email protected]> 2011-08-19 07:36:07 UTC --- (In reply to comment #2) > Would this only be used for bots? No. As said above, Nicknames of neuter grammatical gender may require it, too. This includes, for instance all diminiutives of names such as "Maria" (Mary, feminine) -> "Mariechen" (little Mary, neuter) for all local languages of the western part of the West German continuum from Swiss German over Swabian, Alsation, Palatinean, Ripuarian, (East) Limburgish to Low German (including Westphalian) Usage is depending on language. It would not be used for bots having Names of non-neuter grammatical gender in Colognian, e.g. Off-Topic: As a side-note: it may be useful to make user "right" or group or status information available to message handling occasionally. We translate a user name to the string "the user named 'xyzzy'" in cases of unknown gender, since articles must be used with names standing alone, and there is no genderless article. It would of course be both clearer and more informative to use "the bot named 'xyzzybot'" instead. With some log messages, we would have take care to keep the status at the time of logging, then. Another side-note: In order to get nicknaming with grammatically gendered words right, we would need to know both grammatical and natural gender. For example, a male boxer nicknamed "the Ape" ("Ape" is feminine as per grammatical gender) hit his father in law K.O. -> newspaper headline: "Die Aap hät singe Schwejervatter verkammesölt!" -> Grammatical analysis: "The Ape (feminine) is referred to with "his" (masculine) -> The nick's article goes the nicknames grammatical gender while references to the person otherwise go with the natural gender. Yet another side note: It is not uncommon, that people use Nicknames that include articles, such as ":w:de:User:Der Hexer" or ":w:de:User:De Uli". For languages that require articles to be used with names, we have those articles in messages files of course. At least for the langues I know, adding Articles should be avoided, when names already contain ones. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. _______________________________________________ Wikibugs-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
