https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30636
--- Comment #25 from MZMcBride <[email protected]> 2011-09-24 22:57:18 UTC --- (In reply to comment #22) > (In reply to comment #21) >> (In reply to comment #16) > >> Let's be reasonable in the approach taken here and not pretend as though >> admins >> knowing passwords or being able to quietly reset them is anything new. > > That *sysadmins* have full access to a wiki is certainly indisputable. > There's > no reason why the users having access to this functionality need to be > sysadmins, that's presumably the whole point of having on-wiki. There's > nothing stopping sysadmins using the changePassword maintenance script, now or > in the future, which is deliberately written to provide precisely this > functionality. Yes, my point is that a false dichotomy should be avoided. There isn't a binary choice between sysadmin-only and on-wiki with full logging and revertability. There never has been. Historically there was an on-wiki sysadmin/developer user group (which continues on today in global groups). Simply because something can be done via a maintenance script doesn't mean that it should be necessary. Especially something as basic as password resetting, which nearly every other application in the world simply allows admins to do without any kind of logging. While it may not be appropriate for Wikipedia to have this type of functionality, as its setup is far more complex (among other reasons), I'd venture to say that for most MediaWiki installations, where the sysadmin is the on-wiki bureaucrat/admin, it makes perfect sense. Anyway, most of this is tangential (or completely off-topic). Thanks for your commit. :-) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. _______________________________________________ Wikibugs-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
