Marostegui added a comment.

Hey,
We totally understand T188505 is a blocker for further work on caching-side. It was more of a question of how we should proceed with the deployment of something else that might get affected by caching not enabled. If we don't enable caching, other problems might arise or might not, we are not sure. It's a rather complex situation. This wasn't a discussion about whether T188505 should be a blocker of enabling caching for constraint checks or not.

Given how big the problem was, I am a bit concerned about deploying more things to be honest. Specially if it is such a complex situation that we don't really know which things could pop up.
The idea of investigating and fixing T188505 is more to have a safety net in case unexpected things come up, at least we will be killing bad queries and preventing those to bring down the whole wikidata infra.

If there are such big doubts about what could/could not happen if we do/don't enable caching, from my point of view, we should hold any new deployment related to this until we have fixed the mentioned killing query task.

If you think there was any sort of push, I can assure you, it was a misunderstanding and it's not our intention and I apologize if that was the impression.

Thanks for the clarification - we were basically trying to protect the whole wikidata servers :-)


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