kaldari added a comment.

  Putnik's problem is common, but should be relatively easy to deal with (per 
Mvolz). Where we really run into problems is with the reverse situation: where 
Wikidata properties conflate multiple concepts that may be handled distinctly 
in Wikipedia infobox parameters. Many Wikidata property are vague or 
inconsistently used due to Wikidata's fuzzy, must-fit-all-languages ontology.
  
  Examples of properties that explicitly conflate distinct concepts:
  
  - `P21`: sex or gender (which is also clumsily used to handle transgender 
status, i.e. "transgender male")
  - `P61`: discoverer or inventor
  - `P629`: edition or translation of
  
  Examples of properties that are implicitly vague:
  
  - `P131`: located in the administrative territorial entity (notice how the 
South Pole Telescope <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pole_Telescope> is 
located at "South Pole, Antarctic Treaty area" rather than "South Pole, 
Antarctica" as it would be if we weren't using Wikidata)
  - `P171`: parent taxon (which can in practice correspond to any taxon level: 
genus, tribe, family, etc.)
  - `P527`: has part
  - `P642`: of
  - `P828`: has cause
  
  If we go down this road, we're going to be muddying Wikipedia's more-or-less 
clearly defined infobox parameters with awkward, inconsistent data (or data 
suggestions) that may not fit a particular language's understanding of a 
concept or ontology. `P21` is the most likely to cause obvious problems, but I 
feel like it's only the tip of the iceberg, and we need to consider this 
carefully before we open up pandora's box.

TASK DETAIL
  https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T69659

EMAIL PREFERENCES
  https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/

To: kaldari
Cc: kaldari, Naseweis520, Capankajsmilyo, gerritbot, Samwilson, Mgns, He7d3r, 
geraki, Amire80, hoo, putnik, Mvolz, Lydia_Pintscher, RexxS, TheDJ, Mike_Peel, 
Trizek-WMF, Edgars2007, -jem-, IKhitron, eranroz, Aklapper, Multichill, 
Jdforrester-WMF, Elitre, iecetcwcpggwqpgciazwvzpfjpwomjxn, TrevorParscal, 
Ricordisamoa, Keegan, Liuxinyu970226, Ltrlg, Blissjay007, Oblanco79, 
Alter-paule, Beast1978, Un1tY, Emcmalva, keithbrianpadilla, Hook696, 
Daryl-TTMG, RomaAmorRoma, E.S.A-Sheild, darthmon_wmde, Saimongoltinio, 
WikimeSteve, Kent7301, ppelberg, Meekrab2012, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, 
NebulousIris, marcella, Gaboe420, Revansx, OhKayeSierra, Versusxo, 
Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, takidelfin, Lahi, Gq86, 
Af420, Necroarcano, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, Robinma, 
GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Rafisamra2016, Ramalepe, Liugev6, 
QZanden, Tal-WMIL, merbst, LawExplorer, WSH1906, Avner, Lewizho99, Maathavan, 
Wess, Dvorapa, _jensen, rosalieper, Tzafrir, Scott_WUaS, Srdjan_m, Jrf, 
Husun1297, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Swainr, Matanya, Mbch331, Jay8g
_______________________________________________
Wikidata-bugs mailing list
Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs

Reply via email to