MisterSynergy added a comment.
In T258354#6317978 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258354#6317978>, @Bugreporter wrote: > Before this we should: > > - Find all bots that edits more than 90/minute > - Communiate to them I am already monitoring user edit rates occasionally with a custom Python script <https://bitbucket.org/MisterSynergy/misc/src/master/wikidata_edit_rates.py> that reads the Wikimedia RC stream, and I have contacted several bot operators regarding their edit rates when I saw excessively high values. I wasn't particularly successful, I have to admit. Unfortunately the situation with maxlag>5 for considerable fractions of a day due to the WDQS bottleneck has brought us to a situation where there is sort of a competition for as many editing resources as possible among bot operators. As long as there is neither a policy enforcing a limit nor a hard technical limit, the greediest operator will simply win this competition. There are already quite some bot operators who challenge the Wikidata bot policy by editing up to maxlag=6 or even 7, as they probably think that nobody will notice. We also have to remember that exact throttling to a targeted edit rate is not simple at all. Some tools such as QuickStatements do not allow to control the edit rate at all and they just hammer as many edits as possible to the servers, particularly for users that are not rate limited; quite some bot operators simply use a framework such as Pywikibot and might not be overly proficient when it comes to throttling (although pywikibot in particular does not create that many issues I think); and finally, it is quite difficult to monitor the own edit rate at all, and to realize that one causes issues. I'm afraid I have to say that I do not see a chance for a fair distribution of our limited edit resources among users and bot operators as long as we do not have a hard technical edit rate limit. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258354 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: MisterSynergy Cc: Mohammed_Sadat_WMDE, Dipsacus_fullonum, Bugreporter, MisterSynergy, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Aklapper, Lydia_Pintscher, Akuckartz, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Jonas, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331
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