abian added a comment.

  Hi, Charlie. šŸ–
  
  In T260737#6459414 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T260737#6459414>, 
@Charlie_WMDE wrote:
  
  >> Okay. Then the description might be incomplete; for example, if I change a 
territorial administrative unit to a lower one, I wouldn't consider that the 
previous value "was not correct and has never been". I personally would think 
that I would have improved the original value, but not that the original value 
was wrong, and I wouldn't know what to choose. In this situation people might 
choose arbitrarily (if they didn't have much time) or they might feel forced to 
ask about the consequences of these decisions and about Wikidata's policies on 
when to add values and when to replace them.
  >
  > Iā€™m not sure i understand the scenario correctly, but i would think, if it 
was a mistake, then choosing the first option ā€œcorrectingā€ would be correct, if 
the unit has changed then the ā€œoutdatedā€ option would be the correct one to 
pick. Can you clarify?
  
  I'm thinking of the scenario where the reader doesn't consider the original 
value to be incorrect or outdated but wishes to reflect a more precise/complete 
value. For example, they want to change "musem" to "history museum", or 
"cancer" to "prostate cancer", or "Berlin" to "Friedrichshain". In any case, 
this will hopefully be resolved with the possible rewording (the addition of 
"less [ā€¦] complete or precise").
  
  >> First I thought of population figures for a municipality, the number of 
employees in a companyā€¦ mainly of quantities, but I think this would apply to 
any other data type. If I read that a village has a population of 432 according 
to the infobox, but I have just checked that today there are 276 inhabitants 
according to an official source, I know that the value from the official source 
can be considered correct now, but I don't know if the previous figure was 
correct at some point in the past or not. It seems to me that this situation 
will occur often, as normally we don't know the full history of anything and we 
can't rule out that a value may have been correct an unknown number of years 
ago.
  >>
  >> As to what the related action should be... in my opinion, the value should 
be overwritten if it had no qualifiers or references, and preserved if it had a 
reference or a qualifier (in this case, the new value should have a preferred 
rank, and the original value should be downgraded to normal value if it had 
been marked as preferred). But this is only my opinion, and I know it's a mess; 
when in doubt, adding the value might be the lesser of two evils. (?)
  >
  > That seems like a reasonable conclusion. Is there something that would stop 
you from doing exactly that in the bridge? Currently we can not display 
qualifiers unfortunately, but references can already be viewed. What you said 
about the lesser evil makes a lot of sense to me. Maybe youā€™re suggestion of 
putting the ā€œoutdatedā€-option first, would serve a second purpose. People will 
more likely select the first option when in doubt.
  
  Great point, I hadn't thought of that. :-)
  
  >> I am going to make some suggestions gathering all this together:
  >>
  >> - **The order of the options could be changed** so that the most specific 
or less ambiguous option ("I updated") appears first. This might let the user 
know that the wording of the second option is no longer covering the first case 
("I corrected" does not include updating, because that option has already been 
mentioned).
  >> - "I updated an outdated value / The previous value used to be correct but 
now is outdated."
  >>   - ā†’ "I updated **the (or "a")** value / The previous (or "original") 
value **may have been** (to cover the doubtful case) correct but now is 
outdated."
  >> - "I corrected an incorrect value / The previous value was not correct and 
has never been."
  >>   - ā†’ "I corrected **or completed the (or "a")** value / The previous (or 
"original") value was **less** correct**, complete or precise**."
  >>
  >> These are just my suggestions, feel free to adapt or rule them all out if 
they aren't useful.
  >
  > I will run these past our technical writer. Thank you for the suggestions! 
They both make a lot of sense to me!
  
  Perfect; from what we've discussed, I think the rewording would be enough to 
resolve this task. Thank you!

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