Jheald added subscribers: GFontenelle_WMF, FRomeo_WMF, David_Haskiya_WMSE, SandraF_WMF, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, LucasWerkmeister, Spinster. Jheald added a comment.
A bit more about the use-case. Early next month the external Viae Regiae <https://viaeregiae.org/> project, with which Wikidata:WikiProject Early Modern England and Wales <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Early_Modern_England_and_Wales> is closely co-operating, will start a mass participation effort to transcribe all of the places and placenames on several series of 16th and 17th century maps, like this 1576 Saxton map of Essex <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Essexiae_Comitat%27_Nova_vera_ac_abfoluta_defcription_Ano_Dni_1576_Christophorus_Saxton_defcripfit_RMG_L8560-001.jpg> on Commons. (They will actually be using a higher-resolution copy, which we will be uploading). As can be seen from the map, the number of places on it is very large; the process may generate of the order of 1000 located places per map, which we should like to record as Commons SDC, using either `P180` "depicts" or some similar property, with qualifier `P2677` "relative position within image". The wikibase software should handle this number of statements per file-item. But the SDC user interface will not, Attempting to display 1000 depicts statements would make the SDC information page essentially unusable, if it did not crash altogether. The solution suggested is therefore to suppress display of statements when the number of statements for a particular property becomes very large, and suggest the user interact with them in some other way. Use of SDC to display annotation information for images has been a core use-case for SDC from the start. T214405 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214405> ("Designing for structured image annotations") links some of the other tickets that have been raised for annotation in the past. The present ticket is not a duplicate of T214405 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214405> (on which work has currently been frozen), nor does it depend on it, but it probably is a blocker for it. Uploading media files with a very large number of annotations will be a valuable stress-test for Commons wikibase, in particular per-page performance under such conditions. It will be extremely useful to be able to see how well the UI and supporting software can handle the editing of other statements on the file, when such a very large number of statements (albeit undisplayed) are already present on an item. The ability of SDC to usefully handle annotations, sometimes very large numbers of annotations, is of critical importance to the GLAM sector's interest in the project. At the suggestion of @SandraF_WMF (now a civilian again as @Spinster), who previously carried out scoping work in this area, I am therefore copying in @FRomeo_WMF and @GFontenelle_WMF to this ticket. Even though work on T214405 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214405> is currently frozen, the presence of images with very high number of annotations will be a useful resource for the further development and refinement of user-created tools in this area. In particular @Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE (in his private capacity as @LucasWerkmeister) has developed a tool as described at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Lucas_Werkmeister/Wikidata_Image_Positions to examine and edit/create statements with such `P2677` "relative position within image" qualifiers (visual example <https://wd-image-positions.toolforge.org/item/Q1231009>), and also to export them into working IIIF manifests, to allow them to be viewed (and ingested for further editing) in external viewers such as Mirador (click on the 'speech bubble' icon at the top left of the image to visually display the annotations <https://iiif.si.edu/mirador/?manifest=https://wd-image-positions.toolforge.org/iiif/Q1231009/P18/manifest.json>). In future the tool may also be able to work similarly with annotations attached to non-rectangular polygons using ` P8276 ` "region within image" (value syntax open to modification, for most flexible reusability). The presence of these images on Commons, with high amounts of annotation information, will therefore be a useful test for developing our ability to read infomation in, find good ways to represent it as SDC, and then round-trip it out again as IIIF. This is the essence of T173346 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T173346> and a fundamental technology path-finder for T261621 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261621> (Copying in @David_Haskiya_WMSE) To be able to check the well-functioning of SDC in such cases, when very large amounts of SDC content of one particular kind may be present, it would be very very desirable that the SDC UI tab continues to be operable for other statements, even when a very large number of statements may be present for one or more particular properties. 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