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Having got Cradle working with a shape <https://furry.wiki.opencura.com/tools/cradle/?#/shex/E2> on WBStack after a bit of fuss <https://github.com/wbstack/cradle/issues/2#issuecomment-818352157>, I can say that yes, it's a solution (though it'd be nicer if integrated), but it may benefit from tweaks to ease reuse outside Wikidata. The requirement for `wdt:` in shapes feels problematic, as that prefix and several others are internal to Wikidata <https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/SPARQL/Prefixes>, and liable to lead to confusion if used elsewhere - especially in a federated context. Making it configurable and not reliant on Wikidata-isms such as EXTRA, but rather working with the simplest shapes permitted by the specification may help in the move towards further third-party use. Another approach might see less use of shapes vs. examples, such as those on Wikidata:Cradle <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Cradle>. However the format should be documented (at a glance, the "Help" link goes to that page, which doesn't explain //how// to create a form), and the number of examples provided in a distribution should be limited - in part, so Cradle loads quickly on lower-speed machines. If a sample database is provided along with Cradle as part of a distribution or live demo, it should include a sample set of Cradle forms and/or shapes, else there's a risk it won't be used. Which would be a shame, as it goes a fair way towards filling an obvious gap in the Wikibase feature set. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T205014 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: GreenReaper Cc: GreenReaper, Hogue, Jan_Dittrich, Magnus, Aklapper, Tarrow, Invadibot, Saarik, Johentsch, maantietaja, Samantha_Alipio_WMDE, Akuckartz, Jelabra, Nandana, LJ, lucamauri, Lahi, Gq86, SandraF_WMF, Andrawaag, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, YULdigitalpreservation, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Jneubert, Scott_WUaS, Asahiko, despens, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Daniel_Mietchen, Lydia_Pintscher, Addshore, Mbch331
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