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In T282624#7087006 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T282624#7087006>, @Billinghurst wrote: > It is **not **WMF's role to make community's operational decisions, as in what stewards alone can do. T&S does a disservice to the community when it so simply ignores the years of community operation. **The stewards were not set up to be, and should not be, your sole point of community consultation on these matters**. Read the scope of their role. For matters of this significance it is simply wrong for WMF to think that they get to impose their solutions, especially only in consultation with stewards. I am a little disappointed that stewards are not kicking back on this issue telling you that this is not for their decision, and saying that the community needs to be consulted. > > **WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE IN PHABRICATOR???** That we are having to have this discussion on a phabricator speaks volume to the problem of staff isolating from community on general matters, and increasingly on so many matters. Do you not see this particularly as an issue? This is a technical forum, not the place for our social conversations. > > I ask that you bring the social issues to metawiki. Set out the problem, set out the exact principles, set out the non-negotiables, and then what is negotiable. Please stop the change the methodology of benevolent dictatorship. I, personally, don't mind temporary measures to fix immediate concerns, but if this is months of existing discussion, it seems that you lost that opportunity. Please calm down. I think I made it quite clear that this was a mistake. I am human and make mistakes. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T282624 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: jrbs Cc: Billinghurst, FriedrickMILBarbarossa, DonTrung, Meirae, Teles, Rubin16, TheDJ, Risker, 4nn1l2, MGChecker, Krd, MF-Warburg, MBH, Bebiezaza, Krenair, Acagastya, IKhitron, Iniquity, Urbanecm, Leaderboard, Minorax, Majavah, Proc, stjn, SilkTork, Johan, Quiddity, Amorymeltzer, Asartea, TheSandDoctor, CptViraj, DannyS712, Bugreporter, Jack_Frost, Xaosflux, SQL, Zabe, AntiCompositeNumber, Jack_who_built_the_house, suffusion_of_yellow, GeneralNotability, Rschen7754, Izno, Stanglavine, Tks4Fish, Cosine02, Aklapper, jrbs, Invadibot, LaMagiaaa, R4356th, EhsanKhandowa, RuiyuShen, maantietaja, Muchiri124, CBogen, Akuckartz, Darmo117, Sebleouf, Joye_Zhang, PatsagornY, Dibya, VulpesVulpes825, Lepticed7, Sunny00217, Viztor, 94rain, Nandana, Hamishcn, Jony, Lahi, Gq86, Ramsey-WMF, BJ6123C7BTD, Nahid, GoranSMilovanovic, SPoore, lisong, Jayprakash12345, Allthingsgo, QZanden, Kizule, LawExplorer, JJMC89, DatGuy, Devwaker, Niklitov, Poyekhali, _jensen, rosalieper, Pamputt, Tegel, Taiwania_Justo, RuyP, JEumerus, Scott_WUaS, Ananthsubray, Superzerocool, Ixocactus, Tulsi_Bhagat, Taketa, Thibaut120094, Matiia, Einsbor, Wong128hk, Luke081515, Fuzheado, SimmeD, Bsadowski1, Mardetanha, Barras, Cwek, Wikidata-bugs, Snowolf, Savh, Base, aude, Pmlineditor, Dcljr, NahidSultan, El_Grafo, Dinoguy1000, DerHexer, Shanmugamp7, Trijnstel, zhuyifei1999, Shizhao, Melos, Jalexander, Stryn, Addshore, Steinsplitter, Matanya, Mbch331, Liuxinyu970226, Jay8g, Ltrlg, Glaisher, Keegan
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