Streetmathematician added a comment.

  I have commented elsewhere 
<https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata%3AProject_chat&type=revision&diff=1528163946&oldid=1528142108>,
 on the fact that it appears to me to be a very difficult task to collect 
"classifying Properties", but I'd like to comment here on the technical side:
  
  Currently, in the entity view, we group statements based on the datatype of 
their property values: Most everything goes into Statements, but identifiers go 
into Identifiers. This proposal appears to be about adding a third group, 
"Classification", to the top of the list.
  
  If we decide that is a good idea, the next question would be how to select 
which statements go into Classification. The two options I see are to provide a 
fixed list of such properties in the Wikibase configuration file, or to derive 
the list of properties from the Wikidata information itself, by classifying 
properties as "appears in Classification", "appears in Statements", and 
possibly others.
  
  I've looked into the second option and it's straightforward to implement. We 
need a new StatementGrouper that looks up the Property, finds an "appears in" 
statement attached to it, and uses it to determine where the statement appears.
  
  I think that's a good idea as a generic Wikibase feature. It's a few extra 
lines of code.
  
  As for the first option, that would require a strong, immutable consensus of 
which parts of the Wikidata ontology are "Classifying" and which aren't, strong 
enough to justify putting it into the WikiBASE configuration and not deriving 
it from the WikiDATA database. I don't think such a consensus exists.
  
  I think the first option is a bad idea.
  
  (//My// vague intuition is that what people want to see as Classification is 
statements that are true "by definition". That's easy enough to do for some 
statements: elephants are mammals by taxonomical definition. It's impossible to 
do for mathematical objects which often have different, nontrivially equivalent 
definitions (worse, whether or not they're equivalent may depend on the precise 
flavor of mathematics in use))

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