jayvdb added a project: I18n. jayvdb added a comment.
In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132897#2314775, @Dvorapa wrote: > @jayvdb Can you think up any solution better than this special page/magic word/redirect linking in order to refer new users to the appropriate help page? A special page feels like a completely broken design that will cause more problems than it solves, and it creates a special page which will be hard to kill later. How is the special page going to work on multilingual wikis like meta, mediawiki, commons, etc where links need to be `[[Special:MyLanguage/....]]` to support https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/i18n/? I think `[[Special:MyLanguage/Special:MyEditor/Help:Links]]` is not acceptable. Will `Special:MyEditor` also do `Special:MyLanguage`? Is that feasible? An 'editor' magic word feels more like it could be a workable design. A magic word is a simple tool that is usable for multiple purposes, and meet your needs if they work in your redirects. Whether those redirects are a good idea or not is something the community can experiment with. I expect that using the magic word in redirects will also be problematic; I would recommend that the magic word is used to customise user talk welcome/notice templates, and other larger chunks of prose, so that the user receives well-written messages designed for their chosen editor, rather than generic messages with editor-specific-redireted links to specific information. A magic word can be more easily retired, or its usage restricted if it is causing problems.(e.g. the magic word will split the cache by VE vs SE editors, but on a few help redirects it wont be a problem, but if it is in a core UI message on every page then the operation engineers may object.) I still feel that magic words are not the correct tool for this problem, but then we are misusing the `{{int:}}` magic word all over the place to achieve good results using the wrong tool. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132897 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: jayvdb Cc: MZMcBride, Urbanecm, Ltrlg, jayvdb, Mattflaschen-WMF, Danny_B, TerraCodes, Jdforrester-WMF, JAnD, Blahma, Teslaton, Elitre, Aklapper, Dvorapa, Sethakill, Snowwh1th3, AlexMonk-WMF, Tshrinivasan, D3r1ck01, Nizil, Info-farmer, Ixocactus, Izno, SBisson, Psychoslave, Luke081515, RichardHeigl, Jrf, Husun1297, Wikidata-bugs, Etonkovidova, matthiasmullie, aude, GOIII, Bawolff, Dinoguy1000, Gryllida, jeblad, Harej, MrStradivarius, Shizhao, Swainr, fbstj, Catrope, Jsahleen, Anomie, Tpt, Arrbee, KartikMistry, AuFCL, Jackmcbarn, Mbch331, Jay8g, Quiddity, Legoktm _______________________________________________ Wikidata-bugs mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
