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It should be possible to link a Wikipedia redirect to a Wikidata item so that Wikipedia users who click on it are greeted withIt should be possible to link a Wikipedia redirect to a Wikidata item so that Wikipedia users who click on it are greeted with a pop-up which offers two links and states something like this:
<redirect title> does not exist on Wikipedia; proceed to <target article of the redirect> or see Wikidata <label of redirect's Q number>.
Having such a pop-up which offers two links and states something like this: <redirect title> does not exist on Wikipedia;facility enables us
1) to determine how many incoming proceedredirects to <targetan article of the redirect> or see Wikidata <label of redirect's Q number>.are actually discrete items rather than alternate spellings or somesuch, Having such a facility enables us 1) to determine how many incoming redirects to an article are actually discrete items rather than alternate spellings or somesuch, and and
2) make it more visible for editors to perceive a "need" for new articles to be created. For large, aggregated concepts such as en:Insurance it would be helpful to know how many incoming links should probably have their own separate articles.
Note that this does not require anything from Wikidata, and it refers to the redirect functionality on Wikipedia and sister projects. If someone wants to create the article itself, they click the edit button just like they do today to convert redirects to articles.
It would be nice though if the wikidata item is preserved somehow during article creation so that the new article can be added to that Wikidata item. The advantage of this approach is that it is up to the Wikipedian editor to use the facility in a redirect or not.
Presumably not all redirects are worthy of Wikidata items and can better be sent directly to the target.
Note this is not a solution to the "Bonnie and Clyde" problem also known as Phabricator task {T54564}.
<redirect title> does not exist on Wikipedia; proceed to <target article of the redirect> or see Wikidata <label of redirect's Q number>.
Having such a pop-up which offers two links and states something like this: <redirect title> does not exist on Wikipedia;facility enables us
1) to determine how many incoming proceedredirects to <targetan article of the redirect> or see Wikidata <label of redirect's Q number>.are actually discrete items rather than alternate spellings or somesuch, Having such a facility enables us 1) to determine how many incoming redirects to an article are actually discrete items rather than alternate spellings or somesuch, and and
2) make it more visible for editors to perceive a "need" for new articles to be created. For large, aggregated concepts such as en:Insurance it would be helpful to know how many incoming links should probably have their own separate articles.
Note that this does not require anything from Wikidata, and it refers to the redirect functionality on Wikipedia and sister projects. If someone wants to create the article itself, they click the edit button just like they do today to convert redirects to articles.
It would be nice though if the wikidata item is preserved somehow during article creation so that the new article can be added to that Wikidata item. The advantage of this approach is that it is up to the Wikipedian editor to use the facility in a redirect or not.
Presumably not all redirects are worthy of Wikidata items and can better be sent directly to the target.
Note this is not a solution to the "Bonnie and Clyde" problem also known as Phabricator task {T54564}.
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