Izno added a comment.

This request seems clearly related to this discussion at MT:Wikidata on en.WP. Same actor and almost-same request. ;)

However I think it doesn't make a difference for an infobox on Wikipedia. Or?

Most infoboxes on Wikipedia aren't using the naive property parser function but instead the usually-richer Wikidata Lua module for providing information, at least on the big wikis. I suspect the smaller wikis will eventually adapt that for their languages as the big wikis continue to transition their templates to use Wikidata (per the usual flow of template knowledge from big to small).

There might be an infobox field saying "no children" which makes it different from a missing value, just Wikidata-like "no value" is different from a missing statement. (Not opposing, just arguments.)

I think the default should be to provide the "no value" in the property parser function. As it is, it's the naive way of handling things, so we should expect that a naive user will want everything that Wikidata knows. And when Wikidata knows something, that's a good thing to tell a reader!

@matej_suchanek: That's definitely a possibility in theory, but in practice everyone seems to assume that {{#Property}} either returns an actual value or nothing.

To which users are you referring, out of curiosity?


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