Psychoslave added a comment.

I replied to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2017_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Wikidata/Add_en-us_as_a_separate_language which is linking here as follow:

While I share the concern about the symptom, I'm not sure it's really a technical problem, but more an editorial one about accepted language granularity. That is, the problem surely go far beyond en-US, as I would expect that even within US you will find regional linguistic variations. Actually, even in small town you might find notable dialectal variations. So surely recognize en-US would be fine, but this wouldn't solve the underlying problem.

To give a more concrete example and take some distance with the American English concern which highly mix the linguistic granularity concern with the hegemony concern, I propose to look at the case of Alemannic. It gather a lot of problematic that arise that one face when trying to categorise discourse practices under the abstract notion of language.

First, the English Wikipedia article presents it as a group of dialects of the Upper German branch of the Germanic language family. ISO 639-3 distinguishes four languages for this group: gsw (Swiss German), swg (Swabian German), wae (Walser German) and gct (Alemán Coloniero, spoken since 1843 in Venezuela).

Additionally, Alsatian dialect is clearly a part of this group. Under the ISO 639-3 segmentation it is coded under gsw. There is a Alemannic version of Wikipedia, but hosted under the als subdomain, which obviously come from Alsatian.

Finally, a dialect of Alsatian German is spoken in Amish communities of the United States and Canada.

I'm curious to know how the language committee deals with that kind of problem, and eager to read any documentation you might point me to regarding this topic, and processes used by the language committee.


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