Agree with Andy Mabbett 100%. If someone can't recognize the name of a language in that language, they're not going to understand the article anyways.This would be a change that does more harm than good, in my opinion.
Sven On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Andy Mabbett <[email protected]> wrote: > Please, no. , if, say, a Japanese reader lands on a page on the Hungarian > Wikipedia, they need to see a link in Japanese. The Hungarian name for > their language may mean nothing to them. > On Jan 10, 2013 2:19 PM, "Nicholas Michael Bashour" < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Is there a way to make the names of languages appear in the language of >> the wiki on which they are displayed? For example, the language links now >> are in whatever that language is called in that specific language, but in >> the future, would it be possible, say, on the English Wikipedia to have all >> language links say the name of the language in English, and on the >> Hungarian page they would all be in Hungarian, etc? >> >> -- >> >> Nicholas Michael Bashour >> >> President *|* Wikimedia District of Columbia<http://www.wikimediadc.org/> >> >> PO Box 9822 *| *Washington, DC 20016 >> >> **+32 0488 43 65 89 *|* <http://goog_1373167767/>+1 (202) 630 - 6248*|* >> @NMichaelBashour >> <http://goog_1373167767/>*<http://www.twitter.com/nmichaelbashour> >> **|*[email protected] >> >> >> >> 2013/1/10 Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]> >> >>> Hoi, >>> Expanding to the full name of a language .... eh, do I speak Dutch, >>> Niederlandisch or Nederlands ? And when I speak all those languages, how do >>> I get all the different names for the language that I recognise as my >>> mother tongue ? >>> Thanks, >>> Gerard >>> >>> >>> On 10 January 2013 13:06, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Maybe you could incorporate a link to the International codes for >>>> languages and expand the language code to the full name? >>>> >>>> Carol >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Carol Bream >>>> Team Co-ordinator Library Applications, Thesaurus and Réseaubib >>>> >>>> European Commission >>>> Central Library >>>> ec.europa.eu/libraries >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> The personal data contained in this document are dealt with in >>>> compliance with Regulation (EC) No 45/2001 ofthe European Parliament and of >>>> the Council of 18 December 2000 on the protection of individuals with >>>> regard to the processing of personal data by the Community institutions and >>>> bodies and on the free movement of such data. 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Re: Order of language links (Jane Darnell) >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Message: 1 >>>> Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 13:02:58 +0100 >>>> From: Jane Darnell <[email protected]> >>>> To: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project." >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Order of language links >>>> Message-ID: >>>> < >>>> cafvca-fbsstup_aahfjv4d5g9tjrd5us_rsyukvrwitq7yj...@mail.gmail.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>>> >>>> I think the order of languages is only important for articles with lots >>>> of >>>> interwiki links, but for the vast majority of articles there will be >>>> less >>>> than 5 or so and it doesn't matter. I often click on article interwikis >>>> for >>>> languages I don't know and can't read (like Japanese). I do this for >>>> several reasons, the most prevalent being that I want to see >>>> 1) How many links to that page are there in that language? >>>> 2) How many items (and which items are these) that are in the articles >>>> category in that language? >>>> >>>> I tend to only do this for the larger Wikipedia projects, where I do >>>> this >>>> regularly as a trick to track down articles in foreign languages that >>>> are >>>> good candidates to translate into English (the fathers/sons/siblings of >>>> painters). >>>> Jane >>>> >>>> 2013/1/8 Platonides <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> > On 08/01/13 22:31, LD 100 wrote: >>>> > > I would preferred if this could also be changed by each users >>>> > > individually in the settings (maybe the settings could be set >>>> > > globally) >>>> > >>>> > Although preferences are evil, I see the point for customizing this. >>>> > Having ar: in the top if I have no idea of that language is useless, I >>>> > would prefer to sort first those languages I could understand, perhaps >>>> > with a separator from those I definetely don't know (others might want >>>> > to completely hide those). >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On 08/01/13 22:41, Meng Lu wrote: >>>> > > It's an interesting point. I personally would prefer seeing the >>>> > > Wikipedia instance's own language and English stay at the top, >>>> followed >>>> > > by the rest in alphabetical order. A longer stretch might be >>>> > > providing alternative ordering methods for languages such as >>>> > > alphabetical order, descending sizes of that page in each Wikipedia >>>> > > instance. >>>> > >>>> > Article sizes are not a perfect estimator for article quality, but >>>> seems >>>> > decent enough. However, it should be able to be overriden by marks of >>>> > Featured-article / Good-article when some of the entries are tagged as >>>> > such. >>>> > Con: Any edit potentially means purgin the entries for all interwikis. >>>> > Although if the interwiki sort order is stored in wikidata, and we >>>> > perhaps aren't actively purgin the squid entries, that shouldn't be a >>>> > problem. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Wikidata-l mailing list >>>> > [email protected] >>>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>>> > >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: < >>>> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata-l/attachments/20130109/dafc8e85/attachment-0001.html >>>> > >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>>> >>>> >>>> End of Wikidata-l Digest, Vol 14, Issue 9 >>>> ***************************************** >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > >
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