I think it might take some time to rewrite and test the new interwiki bot. If the bot operators simply download the latest version, they will continue running the old one until its fixed. If we plan to deploy wikidata to all sites soon, there is really no point in running IW bots any more until their logic is substantially changed.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Marco Fleckinger < marco.fleckin...@wikipedia.at> wrote: > What about a bot to observe bot changes periodically and checking those > for unwanted interwiki-operations? > > > On 02/14/2013 11:57 PM, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > >> We really ought to communicate with the bot owners to significantly >> modify their bots. It might even make sense to stop them all together >> until they can be re-designed to take wikidata into account. I could >> post a comment on most boards to ask IW bots to stop (and to notify the >> local communities that they should monitor IW bots changes and halt them). >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Marco Fleckinger >> <marco.fleckin...@wikipedia.at >> <mailto:marco.fleckinger@**wikipedia.at<marco.fleckin...@wikipedia.at> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> Actually when wikidata is running on all wikis we only have to >> remove the iw-links inside all articles of the same wikidata item. >> The bots will not have any base for adding the links again and wont >> do it anymore. >> >> Cheers >> >> Marco >> >> >> On 02/14/2013 11:29 AM, Amir Ladsgroup wrote: >> >> That's a very interesting idea when i check this: >> http://fa.wikipedia.org/w/api.**__php?action=query&meta=** >> wikibase <http://fa.wikipedia.org/w/api.__php?action=query&meta=wikibase> >> >> <http://fa.wikipedia.org/w/**api.php?action=query&meta=**wikibase<http://fa.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=wikibase> >> > >> <http://fa.wikipedia.org/w/__**api.php?action=query&meta=__** >> wikibase<http://fa.wikipedia.org/w/__api.php?action=query&meta=__wikibase>< >> http://fa.wikipedia.org/w/**api.php?action=query&meta=**wikibase<http://fa.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=wikibase> >> >> >> >> we can make a call for a bot to check every wiki but for now i >> think >> there is a very few wikis updated on wikidata so I don't think >> it's very >> good idea right now but for the future it's the only option so >> I'll work >> on it but not now >> >> Best >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Yuri Astrakhan >> <yuriastrak...@gmail.com >> <mailto:yuriastrakhan@gmail.**com<yuriastrak...@gmail.com> >> > >> <mailto:yuriastrakhan@gmail.__**com >> >> <mailto:yuriastrakhan@gmail.**com <yuriastrak...@gmail.com>>>> >> wrote: >> >> We really ought to change it to dynamic: >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/__**api.php?action=query&meta=__** >> wikibase<https://en.wikipedia.org/w/__api.php?action=query&meta=__wikibase>< >> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/**api.php?action=query&meta=**wikibase<https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=wikibase> >> > >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/__**api.php?action=query&meta=__** >> wikibase<https://en.wikipedia.org/w/__api.php?action=query&meta=__wikibase> >> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/**api.php?action=query&meta=** >> wikibase <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=wikibase> >> >> >> (thanks duh) >> >> If there is no error, wikibase is present, disable. This way >> no >> update to the blacklist is needed. The query should be >> re-issued >> every 30 min to make sure it hasn't changed. >> >> The sad part is that interwiki bot needs to be significantly >> reworked, so there is no big incentive to do any changes >> like this >> to it. It should be aware of wikidata, remove all data >> unless it is >> not in wikidata, etc. Lots of heuristical changes. >> >> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Amir Ladsgroup >> <ladsgr...@gmail.com <mailto:ladsgr...@gmail.com> >> <mailto:ladsgr...@gmail.com <mailto:ladsgr...@gmail.com>>> wrote: >> >> I did this: >> https://www.mediawiki.org/__**wiki/Special:Code/pywikipedia/** >> __11073<https://www.mediawiki.org/__wiki/Special:Code/pywikipedia/__11073>< >> https://www.mediawiki.org/**wiki/Special:Code/pywikipedia/**11073<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/pywikipedia/11073> >> > >> >> so updated bots are not a concern anymore :) >> BTW:congrats. >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Katie Chan >> <k...@ktchan.info <mailto:k...@ktchan.info> >> <mailto:k...@ktchan.info <mailto:k...@ktchan.info>>> wrote: >> >> On 13/02/2013 21:31, Denny Vrandečić wrote: >> >> You have examples of that? Did not happen to my >> edits >> (so far). >> >> >> Just once so far - >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/__**__index.php?title=Papal_____** >> conclave,_2013&diff=prev&____**oldid=538105382<https://en.wikipedia.org/w/____index.php?title=Papal_____conclave,_2013&diff=prev&____oldid=538105382> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/__**index.php?title=Papal___** >> conclave,_2013&diff=prev&__**oldid=538105382<https://en.wikipedia.org/w/__index.php?title=Papal___conclave,_2013&diff=prev&__oldid=538105382> >> > >> >> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/__**index.php?title=Papal___** >> conclave,_2013&diff=prev&__**oldid=538105382<https://en.wikipedia.org/w/__index.php?title=Papal___conclave,_2013&diff=prev&__oldid=538105382> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/**index.php?title=Papal_** >> conclave,_2013&diff=prev&**oldid=538105382<https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Papal_conclave,_2013&diff=prev&oldid=538105382> >> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Experience is a good school but the fees are high. >> - Heinrich Heine >> >> ______________________________** >> _____________________ >> >> Wikidata-l mailing list >> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.**wikimedia.org<Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >> > >> <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.__wik**imedia.org <http://wikimedia.org> >> >> <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.**wikimedia.org<Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >> >> >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/__**__mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/____mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l> >> >> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/_**_mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/__mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l> >> > >> >> >> >> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/_**_mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/__mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l> >> >> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Amir >> >> >> ______________________________**___________________ >> Wikidata-l mailing list >> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.**wikimedia.org<Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >> > >> <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.__wik**imedia.org <http://wikimedia.org> >> >> >> <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.**wikimedia.org<Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >> >> >> >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/__**mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/__mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l> >> >> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l> >> > >> >> >> >> ______________________________**___________________ >> Wikidata-l mailing list >> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.**wikimedia.org<Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >> > >> <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.__wik**imedia.org <http://wikimedia.org> >> >> >> <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.**wikimedia.org<Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >> >> >> >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/__**mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/__mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l> >> >> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l> >> > >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Amir >> >> >> >> ______________________________**___________________ >> Wikidata-l mailing list >> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.**wikimedia.org<Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >> > >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/__**mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/__mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l> >> >> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l> >> > >> >> >> ______________________________**___________________ >> Wikidata-l mailing list >> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.** >> wikimedia.org <Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org>> >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/__**mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/__mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l> >> >> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l> >> > >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Wikidata-l mailing list >> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l> >> > > ______________________________**_________________ > Wikidata-l mailing list > Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l> >
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