This may be a question that has been asked before, but why not make Google site search more prominent and so the wikidata search can go into beta mode?
James On Apr 19, 2013 1:01 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send Wikidata-l mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wikidata-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Qualifiers, bug fixes, improved search - all in one night! > (Lydia Pintscher) > 2. Re: Qualifiers, bug fixes, improved search - all in one > night! (Dario Taraborelli) > 3. Re: Qualifiers, bug fixes, improved search - all in one > night! (Daniel Kinzler) > 4. Re: Qualifiers, bug fixes, improved search - all in one > night! (Denny Vrandečić) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 23:26:23 +0200 > From: Lydia Pintscher <[email protected]> > To: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project." > <[email protected]> > Subject: [Wikidata-l] Qualifiers, bug fixes, improved search - all in > one night! > Message-ID: > <CABfqUg+8RNHwuB6W+jFNq6_3c5UTO+jgjNM=zRVvX7Y=_ > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Heya folks :) > > We have just deployed qualifiers > ( > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Data_model_primer#Qualifiers > ) > and bug fixes on wikidata.org. Qualifiers! Bug fixes are especially > for Internet Explorer 8. Please let me know how it is working for you > now if you're using IE8 and if there are still any major problems when > using Wikidata with it. > > In addition the script we ran on the database to make search > case-insensitive has finished running. This should be another huge > step towards a nice search here. (This change also affects the > autocomplete for items and properties.) > > As usual please let me know what you think and tell me if there are any > issues. > > > Cheers > Lydia > > -- > Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher > Community Communications for Wikidata > > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. > Obentrautstr. 72 > 10963 Berlin > www.wikimedia.de > > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. > > Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg > unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das > Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 16:48:08 -0700 > From: Dario Taraborelli <[email protected]> > To: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project." > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Qualifiers, bug fixes, improved search - > all > in one night! > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hi Lydia and all, > > great to hear about this deployment, I am particularly excited about > qualifier support (as per my previous post). > > Since you also mention improvements to search, I was wondering whether you > had specific plans for work on search functionality. > Unless I use the Items by title page, if type "Berlin" in a regular > search form the item I am actually looking for (Q64) is ranked #34 in the > search results (i.e. three clicks away on the "more" link). > > I'd be curious to hear the team's thoughts on how to make search more > effective and user friendly. > > Dario > > On Apr 18, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Lydia Pintscher <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Heya folks :) > > > > We have just deployed qualifiers > > ( > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Data_model_primer#Qualifiers > ) > > and bug fixes on wikidata.org. Qualifiers! Bug fixes are especially > > for Internet Explorer 8. Please let me know how it is working for you > > now if you're using IE8 and if there are still any major problems when > > using Wikidata with it. > > > > In addition the script we ran on the database to make search > > case-insensitive has finished running. This should be another huge > > step towards a nice search here. (This change also affects the > > autocomplete for items and properties.) > > > > As usual please let me know what you think and tell me if there are any > issues. > > > > > > Cheers > > Lydia > > > > -- > > Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher > > Community Communications for Wikidata > > > > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. > > Obentrautstr. 72 > > 10963 Berlin > > www.wikimedia.de > > > > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. > > > > Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg > > unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das > > Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikidata-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 10:14:47 +0200 > From: Daniel Kinzler <[email protected]> > To: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project." > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Qualifiers, bug fixes, improved search - all > in one night! > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On 19.04.2013 01:48, Dario Taraborelli wrote: > > Since you also mention improvements to search, I was wondering whether > you > > had specific plans for work on search functionality. Unless I use the > Items > > by title page, if type "Berlin" in a regular search form the item I am > > actually looking for (Q64) is ranked #34 in the search results (i.e. > three > > clicks away on the "more" link). > > The "improved search" (read: case-insensitive lookup) applies to > ItemByTitle, > the top-right search box suggestions, and autocompletion when entering item > references. > > The full text search is as broken as ever. There are two reasons for this: > > a) rebuilding the imdex from a dump is simply broken for wikidata. It will > cause > raw JSON to be indexed, with horrible results (see bug 45983). This means > that a > lot of "old" items (that havn't been edited since mid february) are not > indexed > correctly. > > b) even for stuff indexed correctly (because it's indexed by mediawiki > itself), > the search isn't great, because it's optimized for wikitext, relying on > wikilinks etc for ranking. > > I don't see a way to fix this with the current Lucene infrastructure. We > have > been experimenting with Solr, but as far as I know, there is no roadmap for > integrating Wikibase specific Solr search with the MediaWiki search page. > It's > on the list, but there are no concrete plans yet. > > -- daniel > > -- > Daniel Kinzler, Softwarearchitekt > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 11:00:24 +0200 > From: Denny Vrandečić <[email protected]> > To: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project." > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Qualifiers, bug fixes, improved search - > all > in one night! > Message-ID: > <CANnnRRtHORvVRQ7v7w-nXj= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hey Dario, > > there is on simple fix we want to apply rather sooner than later, which is > to use the number of language links for ranking. This should work rather > well. The thing is that this is kinda hard to implement in MySQL, I > figured, and that we would need to use something Lucene based (probably > Solr) for that. The Solr extension is quite far, but we currently are not > working on getting it deployed. In short, it's all in the pipes, and it > just takes a bit... > > Cheers, > Denny > > > > > 2013/4/19 Dario Taraborelli <[email protected]> > > > Hi Lydia and all, > > > > great to hear about this deployment, I am particularly excited about > > qualifier support (as per my previous post). > > > > Since you also mention improvements to search, I was wondering whether > you > > had specific plans for work on search functionality. > > Unless I use the Items by title page, if type "Berlin" in a regular > > search form the item I am actually looking for (Q64) is ranked #34 in the > > search results (i.e. three clicks away on the "more" link). > > > > I'd be curious to hear the team's thoughts on how to make search more > > effective and user friendly. > > > > Dario > > > > On Apr 18, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Lydia Pintscher < > [email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > Heya folks :) > > > > > > We have just deployed qualifiers > > > ( > > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Data_model_primer#Qualifiers > > ) > > > and bug fixes on wikidata.org. Qualifiers! Bug fixes are especially > > > for Internet Explorer 8. Please let me know how it is working for you > > > now if you're using IE8 and if there are still any major problems when > > > using Wikidata with it. > > > > > > In addition the script we ran on the database to make search > > > case-insensitive has finished running. This should be another huge > > > step towards a nice search here. (This change also affects the > > > autocomplete for items and properties.) > > > > > > As usual please let me know what you think and tell me if there are any > > issues. > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > Lydia > > > > > > -- > > > Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher > > > Community Communications for Wikidata > > > > > > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. > > > Obentrautstr. 72 > > > 10963 Berlin > > > www.wikimedia.de > > > > > > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. 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