Hi Maarten,

thanks. That's the best proposal I have seen so far in how to proceed with
Phase 1 on Commons. I usually had pushed Commons support further to the
back, but with this I think we would indeed create some real value with a
small change. I will bounce Commons Phase 1 client support up on my list.

I guess we should disallow sitelinks to the File: namespace, in order to
avoid people trying to add metadata about the media files themselves?

Cheers,
Denny



2013/8/10 Maarten Dammers <[email protected]>

> Hi everyone,
>
> At Wikimania we had several discussions about the future of Wikidata and
> Commons. Some broader feedback would be nice.
> Now we have a property "Commons category" (https://www.wikidata.org/**
> wiki/Property:P373 <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P373>). This
> is a string and an intermediate solution.
> In the long run Commons should probably be a wikibase instance in it's own
> right (structured metadata stored at Commons) integrated with Wikidata.org,
> see 
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/**Wikidata:Wikimedia_Commons<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikimedia_Commons>for
>  more info.
> In the meantime we should make Commons a wikidata client like Wikipedia
> and Wikivoyage. How would that work?
>
> We have an item 
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/**Q9920<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q9920>for 
> the city Haarlem. It links to the Wikipedia article "Haarlem" and the
> Wikivoyage article "Haarlem". It should link to the Commons gallery
> "Haarlem" 
> (https://commons.wikimedia.**org/wiki/Haarlem<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Haarlem>
> )
>
> We have an item 
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/**Q7427769<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7427769>for
>  the category Haarlem. It links to the Wikipedia category "Haarlem". It
> should link to the Commons category "Haarlem" (https://commons.wikimedia.*
> *org/wiki/Category:Haarlem<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Haarlem>
> ).
>
> The category item (Q7427769) links to article item (Q9920) using the
> property "main category topic" (https://www.wikidata.org/**
> wiki/Property:P301 <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P301>).
> We would need to make an inverse property of P301 to make the backlink.
>
> Some reasons why this is helpful:
> * Wikidata takes care of a lot of things like page moves, deletions, etc.
> Now with P373 (Commons category) it's all manual
> * Having Wikidata on Commons means that you can automatically get
> backlinks to Wikipedia, have intro's for category, etc etc
> * It's a step in the right direction. It makes it easier to do next steps
>
> Small change, lot's of benefits!
>
> Maarten
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