Markus,

I already cast in my vote of support for you, but I had the same question.
 If you could clarify the boundaries between what you are doing and what
wikidata is doing directly, that would be very helpful.

-Ben


On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Klein,Max <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello Markus,
>
> Your draft proposal, seems so obvious when I read it, but I would have
> never thought about proposing it myself. Despite the fact that my research
> is cited as an example of a motivating capability, and that it was 2 weeks
> of needless headache to code, I had always thought that magical "Phase 3"
> was coming to solve our query woes. I don't see that highlighted in your
> IEG. In fact from what I know, there are still plans from the official
> Wikidata team to build advanced query functionality. Although I do remember
> Denny saying that the team was scrapping the "Phase" development paradigm,
> so maybe I missed something along the way.
>
> Anyway, I think you should address more the fact that this work is
> ostensibly planned from the main Wikidata grant, and why this extra work -
> or extra attention - is needed in addition.
>
> Ps. Wikidatian, or Wikidatum are my faves so far.
>
> Maximilian Klein
> Wikipedian in Residence, OCLC
> +17074787023
>
> ________________________________________
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> [email protected]> on behalf of Markus Krötzsch <
> [email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 5:11 AM
> To: Discussion list for the Wikidata project.
> Subject: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata Toolkit: call for feedback/support
>
> Dear Wikidatanions (*),
>
> I have just drafted a little proposal for creating more tools for
> external people to work with Wikidata, especially to build services on
> top of its data [1]. Your feedback and support is needed.
>
> Idea: Currently, this is quite hard for people, since we only have WDA
> for reading/analysing dumps [2] and Wikidata Query as a single web
> service to ask queries [3]. We should have more support for programmers
> who want to load, query, analyse, and otherwise use the data. The
> proposal is to start such a toolkit to enable more work with the data.
>
> The plan is to kickstart this project with a small team using
> Wikimedia's Individual Engagement program. For this we will need your
> support -- feel free to add your voice to the wiki page [1]. Of course,
> comments of all sorts are also great -- this email thread will be linked
> from the page. If you would like to be involved with the project, that's
> great too; let me know and I can add you to the proposal.
>
> The proposal will already be submitted tomorrow, but support should also
> be possible after that, I hope.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Markus
>
>
> (*) Do we have a demonym yet? Wikipedian sounds natural, Wikidatan less
> so. Maybe this should be another thread ... ;-)
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Wikidata_Toolkit
> [2] http://github.com/mkroetzsch/wda
> [3] http://208.80.153.172/wdq/
>
> --
> Markus Kroetzsch, Departmental Lecturer
> Department of Computer Science, University of Oxford
> Room 306, Parks Road, OX1 3QD Oxford, United Kingdom
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