Hi Gerard,
As I said, I don't follow your arguments. Wikidata Query, for example,
has also started without any qualifiers at all, and yet it was a useful
tool from the beginning.
Your feedback is always welcome, but there is a point when critique is
no longer constructive, and when it is best to "agree to disagree". I
think we have reached that point.
Markus
On 13/06/14 12:37, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi,
There is a huge difference between being complete and leaving out
essential information. When you consider Ronald Reagan [1], it is
essential information that he was a president of the USA and a governor
of California. When you only make him an actor and a politician, the
information you are left with gives the impression he is more relevant
as an actor.
You brought attention to new functionality that is essentially broken.
It does not give a fair impression of the Wikidata content. I have been
arguing against overly referring to academic tools and standards. For me
this announcement is yet another pointer that many of the tools are
overrated and only have an "academic relevance.
Thanks,
GerardM
[1] http://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?&q=9960
On 13 June 2014 11:41, Markus Krötzsch <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Gerard,
On 13/06/14 11:08, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi,
When you leave out qualifiers, you will find that Ronald Reagan was
never president of the United States and only an actor. Yes,
omitting
the statements with qualifiers is wrong but as a consequence the
total
of the information is wrong as well.
I do not see the point of this functionality. It is wrong any
way I look
at it. Without qualifiers information is wrong. Without statements
information is wrong and without the items involved the
information is
incomplete and wrong.
As I see it you cannot win. Including this type of RDF export
produces
something that I fail to see serves any purpose or it is the purpose
that you can.
Surely, Wikidata will never be complete. There will always be some
statements missing. If we would follow your reasoning, the data
would therefore never be of any use. I think this is a bit drastic.
Anyway, why argue? If you don't like the simplified exports, just
use the full ones. We clearly say that "simplified" is not
"faithful", and we have a detailed documentation about what is in
each of the files. So it does not seem likely that people will be
confused.
Best regards,
Markus
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