Sorry Lydia, but I can't read that in your reply. I point on an overlooked
issue with designing the current version. I see no recognition that this is
an issue that is taken serious and needs to be solved. You mention that
there are issues that will be solved, but the issue raised here is not
taken into account (it seems).

You say that you will move forward. I reply on that the current design is a
downfall compared with how it was. I conclude based on what I notice in the
editing workflow that the change is not an improvement.

In your reply you do not give the impression that the issue raised here is
going to be solved, nor that you want to restore the previous workable
version, so in that perspective you keep the current design which is
troubling. It is a step back. If someone would ask me to put the versions
in chronological order of development based on how it works for users, than
the current version would come before the previous version. If the current
design would have been followed by the previous design, I would have
congratulated
the Wikidata team with this major improvement, which makes editing Wikidata
for users much easier.

Are there any plans yet in what the workflow of users is restored to a
workable situation?

Romaine



2014-10-09 18:08 GMT+02:00 Lydia Pintscher <[email protected]>:

> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Romaine Wiki <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Hello Lydia,
> >
> > I can understand that it is not restored back in the previous situation,
> but
> > this is not an improvement. Editing Wikidata is made harder, more
> difficult,
> > and more clumpsy. This change of a new design is counter-productive. For
> > months we are asking people to add stuff to Wikidata if they created an
> > article, we stop with that. We really can't explain this change. It is
> also
> > counter-productive if a wrong decision is made and the effects for end
> users
> > are ignored, while they have (or had) to deal with it every time. This
> > version is not an improvement but a step back in time. I am sure you and
> > your team have been working hard on this, but apparently in the process
> it
> > has been missed how a lot of users work with Wikidata.
> >
> > That you notice some issues is fine, but that is no answer at all to the
> > current complaints. Seeing the reactions from other users elsewhere I am
> not
> > alone in this.
> >
> > But one question is answered, you are not willing to restore a better
> > version of the software to restore the downfall but want to keep this
> > annoying not handy working version.
>
> No that's not what I said. I said we are going to move forward and
> make this better so the issues you are having now will no longer be
> there. By no means do I want to insist on keeping the current status -
> quite the opposite.
>
>
> Cheers
> Lydia
>
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