Am 15.05.2015 um 01:11 schrieb John Erling Blad: > How do we go from a spelled form of a lexeme at Wiktionary and to an > identifier on Wikidata?
What do you mean by "go to"? And what do you mean by "identifier on Wikidata" - Items, Lexemes, Senses, or Forms? Generally, Wiktionary currently combines words with the same rendering from different languages on a single page. So a single Wiktionary page would correspond to several Lexeme entries on Wikidata, since Lexemes on wikidata would be split per language. I suppose a Lexeme-Entry could be linked back to the corresponding pages on the various Wiktionaries, but I don't really see the value of that, and sitelinks are currently not planned for Lexeme entries. It probably makes more sense for the Wiktionary pages to explicitly reference the Wikidata-Lexeme that corresponds to each language-section on the page. > And how do we go from one Sense to another > synonym Sense? Do we use statements? But then only the L-identifiers > can be used, so we will link them at the Lexeme level.. Why can only L-Identifiers be used? Senses (and Forms) are entities and have identifiers. They wouldn't have a wiki-page of their own, but that's not a problem. The intention is that it's possible for one Sense to have a statement referring directly to another Sense (of the same or a different Lexeme). > Wiktionary is organized around homonyms while Wikipedia is organized > around synonyms, especially across languages, and I think this > difference creates some of the problems. The Lexeme-Part of Wikidata (L-ids) would be separate from the Concept-part of Wikidata (Q-ids). The Lexeme part is organized around homonyms (more precisely, homographs in a single language). Each Lexeme can have several "Senses" modeled as "sub-entities", meaning that each Sense has its own set of Statements. Each Sense can be linked to Senses of other Lexemes (explicit synonyms or translations) and to Q-id concepts (implicit synonyms or translations) using Statements. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
