Hoi,
Given that 19,21% of all items have no statements whatsoever, it is a bit
premature to come with such notions. Let us first fix this and then
consider what we do not need.
Thanks,
GerardM
https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/stats.php?reverse
On 31 May 2015 at 16:12, Romaine Wiki <romaine.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Markus,
>
> I think there must always be some way to make an item unique. A way to
> identify the item outside Wikidata. This can be a sitelink, for subjects
> located on a fixed location on Earth it are the coordinates, etc. But only
> coordinates without knowing what the subject is does not make sense either.
> In some way the item must be able to be identified somewhere somehow.
>
> This subject can be compared with the subject of what we (on nl-wiki) see
> as basic statements that need to be added to be able to identify a subject
> on Wikidata and to be able to differ it from another subject. (To be able
> to answer the question: the article X is not connected to Wikidata, to
> which item should it be connected?)
> For everything instance of. For geographical situated subjects we request
> the country, located in the administrative territorial entity, location
> (for towns, etc), coordinates. For people gender, birth/death date/place,
> occupation, country. For living creatures the taxonomic rank, scientific
> name, parent taxon. For creative works the author, date.
>
> Romaine
>
> 2015-05-29 17:42 GMT+02:00 Markus Krötzsch <mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org>
> :
>
>> Hi Jane, hi Romaine,
>>
>> I think we agree that valuable information should be kept if at all
>> possible. My chief concern is that orphaned items do not have a clear
>> identity. It's not useful to know that "something" is at a certain
>> location. The first thing we must determine is what this "thing" is that we
>> are talking about. Links to Wikipedia are a good way of doing this. Without
>> them, we need to come up with other identity providing sources. We
>> certainly have the right infrastructure for this (with all the identifier
>> properties that point to other databases and authority files).
>>
>> The first goal of anyone who wants to safe an orphan should be to connect
>> it with the outside world so as to give it some grounding to build on.
>>
>> A weaker way to provide basic grounding is to make internal connections.
>> There are cases where this is strong (one can identify items as "the author
>> of War & Peace" or "the mother of Marie Skłodowska-Curie"), but there are
>> other cases where it is too weak ("the town in Germany" or "the part of
>> Europe" do not identify anything). One would need to give this more thought
>> if one wanted to determine automatically if an item receives its identity
>> from the incoming/outgoing links to other items.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Markus
>>
>>
>> On 29.05.2015 17:05, Romaine Wiki wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Markus,
>>>
>>> Indeed yes, that is also an issue. It can happen with new articles and
>>> with older articles.
>>>
>>> Some articles get deleted as they are a duplicate of another article, or
>>> worse written (to bad to keep), or not an encyclopaedic subject to have
>>> in an encyclopaedia.
>>>
>>>
>>> Every day, on nl-wiki we check new articles if they are connected on
>>> Wikidata. Almost all articles that have a template that marks it as
>>> nominated for deletion we ignore and we do not add them to Wikidata. On
>>> nl-wiki we do this by hand, to make sure all basic statements are added,
>>> but if this is done by bots, you get a situation that they may not check
>>> for templates that mark articles for deletion.
>>>
>>> If an deleted item has statements, the question is if this information
>>> is at itself valuable to keep to be used and/or for the future.
>>>
>>> Romaine
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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