Peter,

you might be looking for this:

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/DataModel#Dates_and_times

Cheers,
Denny

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 9:48 AM Peter F. Patel-Schneider <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks.
>
> This helps in finding out how to reproduce the numbers.
>
> However, I'm still confused as to how these bits of data are part of the
> Wikidata data/knowledge model.  Where is the description of
> getPreferredCalendarModel, for example?
>
>
> http://javadox.com/org.wikidata.wdtk/wdtk-datamodel/0.1.0/org/wikidata/wdtk/datamodel/interfaces/TimeValue.html
>  Is a *partial* description of what is going on.  Changes to this document
> would be somewhat useful.  However, what I'm really looking for is a
> description of how time works in Wikidata.
>
> peter
>
> PS:  I note that there are lots of aspects of TimeValue that are only
> suitable for the Gregorian and Julian calendars.
>
>
>
> On 07/01/2015 09:24 AM, Markus Krötzsch wrote:
> > On 01.07.2015 18:03, Peter F. Patel-Schneider wrote: ...
> >>
> >> Even the very nice email from Markus that gives numbers does not
> >> provide any information on where the numbers come from.
> >
> > I just ran a simple Java program based on Wikidata Toolkit to count the
> > date values. The features I used for counting are all part of the data
> > (concretely I accessed: year number, precision, and calendar model). I
> > used the JSON dump of 22 June 2015. The program counted all dates that
> > occur in any place (main values of statements, qualifiers, and
> > references). No other special processing was done.
> >
> > Below is the main code snippet that did the counting, in case my
> > description was too vague. If you want to get your own numbers, it does
> > not require much (I just modified one of the example programs in Wikidata
> > Toolkit that gathers general statistics). Running the code took about
> > 25min on my laptop (the initial dump download took longer though). The
> > SPARQL endpoint at https://wdqs-beta.wmflabs.org/ should also return
> > useful counts if it does not time out on the very large numbers. It uses
> > life data.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Markus
> >
> >
> > // after determining that snak is of appropriate type: String cm =
> > ((TimeValue) ((ValueSnak) snak).getValue())
> > .getPreferredCalendarModel(); if (TimeValue.CM_GREGORIAN_PRO.equals(cm))
> > { this.countGregDates++; } else if (TimeValue.CM_JULIAN_PRO.equals(cm))
> > { this.countJulDates++; } else { System.err.println("Weird calendar
> > model: " + ((ValueSnak) snak).getValue()); }
> >
> > if (((TimeValue) ((ValueSnak) snak).getValue()).getPrecision() <=
> > TimeValue.PREC_MONTH) { return; }
> >
> > long year = ((TimeValue) ((ValueSnak) snak).getValue()).getYear(); if
> > (year >= 1923) { this.countModernDates++; } else if (year >= 1753) {
> > this.countAlmostModernDates++; } else if (year >= 1582) {
> > this.countTransitionDates++; } else { this.countOldenDates++; }
> >
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