Quim, Jane and Wikidatans, Appreciating your focus on museums and paintings, Jane, re Markus's Wikipedias' mapping project (and a hypothetical Wikidata virtual earth for these and STEM research, building on Markus's mapping), where Museums' paintings and art in all 288 Wikipedia/Wikidata languages could similarly be beautifully mapped database-wise.
And appreciating your focus too, Jane, on open linked data re developing inter-lingual Wikidata with machine learning and artificial intelligence ahead. In these regards, and among about ~10 main CC World University foci/areas - http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2011/01/natural-platform-world-univ-sch-would.html - which could be used as a contributory organizing framework in the future, Quim, World University has a main Museums' wiki Subject and is planning to grow open museums in all 7,929 languages online - including in a virtual earth (with paintings much like virtual books "in the stacks" of digital libraries in a virtual earth). Quim, since Wikia (e.g. WUaS is in the open Wikia wiki http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Subjects) is also a Wikimedia project, - e.g. Jimmy Wales is the president of Wikia and Chairman of Wikimedia - I wonder concerning your focus this quarter with this email thread ... * Open data organization has a subset of interesting data that could be used to improve Wikimedia wikis after being added to Wikidata. ... whether these ~10 main World University foci/areas could become part of framework for the contributory data planning for what you have in mind. Cheers, Scott On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Quim Gil <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Jane Darnell <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I think a name like "Linked Open Wikidata" would be better, since that is >> what I think you are talking about - linked open data with Wikidata items >> at the hub from which all other research questions should begin. Something >> like "Sum of all Data" in the sense that we already have a mini-framework >> set up for the "Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings": >> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_sum_of_all_paintings >> > > I think we are still talking about different things, so I will try to > define what I believe is our primary use case here: > > * Open data organization has a subset of interesting data that could be > used to improve Wikimedia wikis after being added to Wikidata. > > Use cases that we are NOT pursuing in this quarterly goal: > > * Open data organization has a humongous amount of data to be injected > entirely to Wikidata. > * Wikidata contributors start compiling a directory with the Sum of all > Data. > * Wikidata/Commons contributors start building a Wikimedia version of > http://datahub.io/ > > I also want to clarify the intended meaning of "Imagine GLAM > <https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM> applied to data." Over the > years, GLAM has created documentation, campaigns, tools, success stories, a > network of of volunteers and cultural organizations, and even some new > jobs. Today, a Wikimedian living in a place with an interesting > gallery/library/archive/museum (or someone working in any of these > institutions) has a framework and a support network to learn how to > establish a first contact and organize a first activity. We don't have an > equivalent for open data. We can wait all this to be created organically as > it happened with GLAM, but we can also help pushing the process reusing > good lessons from GLAM and other initiatives. > > > > > > >> The Wikiverse is always overly ambitious, and Wikidata is no exception. >> It would be nice to have all oil paintings from the world's top museums and >> national collections in there, as well as all paintings from the world's >> greatest artists. >> Jane >> >> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Quim Gil <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thank you very much for this quick and very diverse wave of feedback. >>> I'm trying to keep the description of >>> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101950 up to date, and you are >>> welcome to edit too. >>> >>> The deliverable of this goal is basically documentation, so the first >>> question is where should that documentation live. Somewhere under >>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata: ? In Meta? In Outreach? >>> Elsewhere? As soon as we have an answer we can start documenting on-wiki, >>> business as usual. >>> >>> We need a name for this "framework". It can be a working name used for >>> practical reasons. I'm starting to use Wiki Loves Open Data / WLOD, but >>> only in my brain (now it's the first time that I write it down). Please >>> propose better alternatives if you have them. >>> >>> For now we will keep the discussion here, but people willing to get >>> involved as a contributor / stakeholder should get ready to follow the work >>> in Phabricator. We will start with subtasks blocking T101950, jumping to an >>> own project only if needed. >>> >>> Some replies to feedback received: >>> >>> * If you are involved or in touch with an open data organization, you >>> are encouraged to add yourselves to "Organizations interested" at >>> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101950. >>> >>> * Having real cases with real problems is the best way to focus on what >>> really matters. There is a section "The problem" where we should list the >>> problems that are blocking or making difficult fruitful contributions to >>> Wikidata. >>> >>> * Where to publish entire datasets... Something tells me that this is >>> not the most urgent and important problem that we have, but the community >>> definitely knows better, so correct me if I'm wrong. I think our main use >>> case are organizations having certain types of data that would be great to >>> have in Wikipedia via Wikidata. Whatever is the most urgent problem, we >>> need to be very selective in the scope we want to address in this quarterly >>> goal. >>> >>> * The experience of maintainers of current projects like ProteinBoxBot >>> is very very useful. Please do not hesitate getting into details, creating >>> subtasks to address specific problems, etc. >>> >>> * Scott, I have the impression that we need to define this framework a >>> bit before projects like yours can jump in and find their ways for >>> contributing. I don't have a good reply to you right now, and this goal is >>> precisely about offering a framework useful to you, useful to Wikimedia. >>> >>> Looking forward to your feedback and to start editing on a wiki page >>> soon. >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 8:09 PM, Info WorldUniversity < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Quim, Sylvia, Lydia and Wikidatans, >>>> >>>> In terms of strategic partnerships with CC Wikidata, and this Wikidata >>>> Engineering >>>> Community project looking for - >>>> >>>> "* people that have been in touch with organizations willing to >>>> contribute their open data" - >>>> >>>> in what ways could CC World University and School contribute our early >>>> CC Nation State Universities, e.g. Mexico World University and School - >>>> http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Mexico - (with only the CC MIT >>>> OCW in Spanish so far, and not yet in Spanish otherwise)? See also, for >>>> example, the Nation States' wiki subject page at WUaS - >>>> http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Nation_States. Each wiki >>>> Nation-State University at CC WUaS, seeks to accredit in each country >>>> in their main languags to offer online CC baccalaureate, Ph.D., Law and >>>> M.D. degrees, and also I.B. high school degrees, if possible, based on CC >>>> MIT OCW in 7 languages and CC Yale OYC, to begin. >>>> >>>> In addition, CC World University would like to facilitate wiki / >>>> Wikidata schools for open teaching and learning in each of all 7,929+ >>>> languages. As planned interlingual wiki schools for highest quality >>>> universal education, CC World University and School would like to explore >>>> developing in Wikidata, and become a growth story also for Wikidata. World >>>> University would thus like to explore contributing our open data in these >>>> regards. >>>> >>>> In what ways might WUaS best contribute in terms of a strategic >>>> partnerships re this Wikidata Engineering Community project ? Perhaps >>>> World University could become a part of the"community framework >>>> allowing Wikidata content and tech contributors, data engineers, and open >>>> data organizations to collaborate effectively." Thank you. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Info (Scott) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Benjamin Good <[email protected] >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Quim, >>>>> >>>>> I'm not familiar with GLAM or what you are really asking for here. >>>>> Could you elaborate a little? Our group is actively engaged in writing >>>>> bots for populating wikidata with trusted biomedical information and for >>>>> using that information to drive applications such as Wikipedia. Processes >>>>> for making this easier would be most welcome. A lot of what we are doing >>>>> and hoping to do is described on this bot page: >>>>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:ProteinBoxBot >>>>> >>>>> ? >>>>> -Ben >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 9:23 AM, David Cuenca Tudela <[email protected] >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello Quim, >>>>>> >>>>>> There was always the issue of where to publish datasets from partner >>>>>> organisations like a http://datahub.io/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Is that being considered in this new iteration? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Micru >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Romaine Wiki <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Quim, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We have in Belgium (as Wikimedia Belgium) a partner organisation who >>>>>>> is together with us working with cultural institutions to get open >>>>>>> datasets >>>>>>> to be used in Wikidata. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So yes, we are interested. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Greetings, >>>>>>> Romaine >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2015-07-01 17:31 GMT+02:00 Quim Gil <[email protected]>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, it's first of July and I would like to introduce you a >>>>>>>> quarterly goal that the Engineering Community team has committed to: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Establish a framework to engage with data engineers and open data >>>>>>>> organizations >>>>>>>> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101950 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We are missing a community framework allowing Wikidata content and >>>>>>>> tech contributors, data engineers, and open data organizations to >>>>>>>> collaborate effectively. Imagine GLAM applied to data. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If all goes well, by the end of September we would like to have >>>>>>>> basic documentation and community processes for open data engineers and >>>>>>>> organizations willing to contribute to Wikidata, and ongoing >>>>>>>> projects with one open data org. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you are interested, get involved! We are looking for >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * Wikidata contributors with good institutional memory >>>>>>>> * people that has been in touch with organizations willing to >>>>>>>> contribute their open data >>>>>>>> * developers willing to help improving our software and programming >>>>>>>> missing pieces >>>>>>>> * also contributors familiar with the GLAM model(s), what works and >>>>>>>> what didn't work >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This goal has been created after some conversations with Lydia >>>>>>>> Pintscher (Wikidata team) and Sylvia Ventura (Strategic Partnerships). >>>>>>>> Both >>>>>>>> are on board, Lydia assuring that this work fits into what is >>>>>>>> technically >>>>>>>> effective, and Sylvia checking our work against real open data >>>>>>>> organizations willing to get involved. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This email effectively starts the bootstrapping of this project. I >>>>>>>> will start creating subtasks under that goal based on your feedback and >>>>>>>> common sense. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Quim Gil >>>>>>>> Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation >>>>>>>> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Wikidata mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Wikidata mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Etiamsi omnes, ego non >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wikidata mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikidata mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> - Scott MacLeod - Founder & President >>>> >>>> - http://worlduniversityandschool.org >>>> >>>> - 415 480 4577 >>>> >>>> - PO Box 442, (86 Ridgecrest Road), Canyon, CA 94516 >>>> >>>> - World University and School - like Wikipedia with best STEM-centric >>>> OpenCourseWare - incorporated as a nonprofit university and school in >>>> California, and is a U.S. 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt educational organization, >>>> both effective April 2010. >>>> >>>> >>>> World University and School is sending you this because of your >>>> interest in free, online, higher education. 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