Hoi,
My understanding is that it is machines that need to uniquely know what a
property stands for. People are quite capable understanding what a
combination of a P and a Q mean. At that time there is no disambiguation.
With proper descriptions it is not hard at all to choose the right property
when a new statement is made.
So really what IS the issue?
Thanks,
GerardM
On 9 July 2015 at 10:59, Daniel Kinzler <[email protected]> wrote:
> Am 09.07.2015 um 03:12 schrieb Ricordisamoa:
> > Il 08/07/2015 22:00, Daniel Kinzler ha scritto:
> >> The idea was readability and internationalization.
> >
> > Which one is more readable and internationalized,
> {{#property:syntymäaika}} or
> > {{#property:P569}} ?
> > The former makes reading and reusing templates from other wikis much
> harder.
>
> Well, yea, localizing things always makes them harder to use by people who
> do not
> speak the respective language. I'd say the natural language name is still
> more
> readable,
> since there are probably more people who know what "syntymäaika" means
> than what
> "P569"
> means.
>
> But I see your point, especially with regards to cross-wiki template use
> (if we
> ever get that).
>
> >> If there is consensus to not use human readable property names for
> accessing
> >> data, and solely rely on IDs instead, we could indeed stop all this
> right now,
> >> and just drop the uniqueness constraint for labels as well as for
> aliases of
> >> properties.
> >
> > Yes!
>
> Can you point to a community decision/discussion regarding this? Is the
> sentiment the same across several languages?
>
> If this feature is *really* not needed/wanted, we can of course drop it.
> Would
> save a lot of trouble. But I'd want to be rather sure about that. After
> all,
> even MediaWiki's magic words like #REDIRECT are localized.
>
> On a related note: what about the "#property" bit. Should that be
> localized?...
>
>
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>
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