Yes, we carefully used Autolist1 so that they couldn't easily make bulk
edits, to avoid this :-). It was solely a discovery tool rather than an
editing one.

However, in the workshop, one person did figure out how to, and did a batch
of fifty on their own initiative!

A.

On 4 December 2015 at 18:18, Jan Ainali <[email protected]> wrote:

> That is a nice idea Andrew. One thing to be aware of is editing pace. I
> had an advanced workshop with prepared pre-filled Autolists, and when 10-15
> people with new accounts on the same IP tried to add statements at the same
> time through Autolist there was some mechanism that kicked in (to protect
> Wikidata). I understand the reason for the feature and do not suggest
> changing it, people designing workshops just need to be aware that this
> feature exist.
>
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> 2015-12-04 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Gray <[email protected]>:
>
>> Charles Matthews and I ran a workshop a little while ago which had
>> something like the fortune cookie idea.
>>
>> First, we demonstrated basic Wikidata editing (adding/changing
>> statements) as part of a discussion on the data structure - properties
>> and items, item versus text properties, etc.
>>
>> After this, we gave everyone a numbered slip with a Wikidata query (in
>> WDQ form) on it - mostly of the type "claim[X] and noclaim[Y]". Then
>> we got them to load up pre-filled Autolist links (all numbered and
>> ready), pick a couple of entries from the list, and try to fix
>> whatever was missing. (There was an unintended detour at this point
>> into how to interpret WDQ queries - people got the idea pretty fast
>> that these were one set of items missing particular values)
>>
>> Queries we used were things like "people with no nationality" (though
>> "people born since 1600 with no nationality" would have worked
>> better), "people with no occupation", "buildings that don't have a
>> 'located in' value", etc.
>>
>> This got people making small edits very early, ensured that we had a
>> fresh supply of "missing cases" to work on (because the lists were
>> generated from scratch), and prompted a lot of very good questions for
>> discussion, people starting to hack the queries to find more specific
>> topics, etc. I was really quite pleased with the way it worked.
>>
>> Andrew.
>>
>>
>> On 4 December 2015 at 17:38, Benjamin Good <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > Thanks All!
>> > (and especially to Lane for by far the best complement I've received,
>> maybe
>> > ever..)
>> >
>> > Will get back to you with the final product and some news about the
>> > meeting..  Andra Waagmeester had a great idea that unfortunately we are
>> a
>> > bit late to implement.  Fortune cookies to pass out where each fortune
>> is a
>> > single wikidata edit that the recipient is encouraged to make..  Would
>> love
>> > to see that play out someday.
>> >
>> > -Ben
>> >
>> > On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 6:51 AM, Lane Rasberry <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Benjamin,
>> >>
>> >> It might be helpful for you to get confirmation that there are no
>> >> excellent polished Wikidata tutorials in existence.
>> >>
>> >> The good tutorials are made by people who know Wikidata, like the one
>> EMW
>> >> shared, but EMW is not a graphic designer and made a practical
>> presentation
>> >> rather than a corporate scripted slideset.
>> >>
>> >> Your "poof it works" article is the state of the art.
>> >>
>> >> <
>> http://sulab.org/2015/10/poof-it-works-using-wikidata-to-build-wikipedia-articles-about-genes/
>> >
>> >>
>> >> It is all very casual and everything understates how important and
>> >> revolutionary Wikidata is. I still show your article to lots of
>> people. Of
>> >> all the Wikidata narratives I have read I like yours the best.
>> >>
>> >> yours,
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Benjamin Good <
>> [email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> The gene wiki people are hosting a tutorial on wikidata in Cambridge,
>> UK
>> >>> next Monday [1].  In the interest of making the best tutorial in the
>> least
>> >>> amount of preparation time.. I was wondering if anyone on the list had
>> >>> content (slides, handouts, cheatsheets) that they had already used
>> >>> successfully and might want to share?  We are assembling the
>> structure of
>> >>> the 90 minute session in a google doc [2], feel free to chime in
>> there !
>> >>> And of course everything we generate for that will be available
>> online as
>> >>> soon as it exists.
>> >>>
>> >>> cheers
>> >>> -Ben
>> >>>
>> >>> [1]
>> http://www.swat4ls.org/workshops/cambridge2015/programme/tutorials/
>> >>>
>> >>> [2]
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dSgm90SbQBpHqEMa17t5zQL0PB2waIKD3LKTPPknmcY/edit#heading=h.m19y528ldds8
>> >>>
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