I am interested in this topic, spatiotemporal definition of places. Can we set up a task force that would collect best practices and see if something is missing in Wikidata for describing historical places?
There are several academic projects that can contribute to this. - Finnish spatiotemporal ontology SAPO <http://seco.cs.aalto.fi/ontologies/sapo/> - Wikidata as a gazetteer / Humphrey Southall / PastPlace <https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/From_Wikidata_to_a_global_historical_gazetteer:_Pelagios_and_PastPlace> - TopoTime / Karl Grossner, Elijah Meeks <https://github.com/kgeographer/Topotime> - Pelagios 3 <http://pelagios-project.blogspot.com> and there are many more Best, Susanna 2016-01-19 19:54 GMT+02:00 Info WorldUniversity < [email protected]>: > Hi Sandra, Sjoerd and Wikidatans, > > In what ways would it be possible to add particular place > qualifiers/claims/properties (incorporating Wikidata Geodata) to be linked > with new time claims you suggest such as seasons or quarters ... for > eventual use in an eventual film-realistic, 3D, interactive, > group-build-able wiki virtual earth? > > Greetings, Scott > > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 6:45 AM, Sjoerd de Bruin <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi Sandra, >> >> For between dates, we have https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1319 >> (earliest date) and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1326 (latest >> date) as qualifiers. You can set the claim itself on century or whatever >> then. You can also use P1326 for before dates, I think. Seasons is another >> thing, I think we need a new property for that. Same for quarters. >> >> But I agree, it should be great if this was integrated more. Showing >> better suggestions before saving is another thing that could help. >> >> Greetings, >> >> Sjoerd >> >> Op 18 jan. 2016, om 22:03 heeft Sandra Fauconnier < >> [email protected]> het volgende geschreven: >> >> Hi folks, >> >> I do lots of edits related to artworks. Many artworks (and, I assume, >> many other things) are dated in the following ways: >> >> 1. 'between 1850 and 1899’ - on Wikidata that could be ’18. century’ >> (yep, needs to be written like that) with qualifiers start date and end >> date ? >> 2. ‘between 1784 and 1787’ - on Wikidata ‘1780s’ with qualifiers? >> 3. ‘between 1878 and 1904 - on Wikidata... eeeehm? >> >> I was wondering: can’t we express this without needing any qualifiers at >> all? >> >> We can enter units as ‘320 cm plus/minus 7 cm’, right? >> Might we also be able to say ‘1898 plus/minus six years’? >> >> I can imagine we’d then also have an interface that helps you enter a >> ‘between date x and date y’ elegantly without needing to do any math. >> >> Or would that not be possible? >> I think it would be great to have, as it would make our dating >> conceptually much more accurate IMO. >> >> Curious what others think. >> Best, Sandra (User:Spinster) >> >> p.s. On Commons we have an {{Other date}} template that’s used very >> frequently, that allows rich time/date expressions, and that I really love. >> Here’s the documentation: >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Other_date >> >> Besides this ‘between’ concept, it also has, among other things >> * before (date) or after (date) - also very common! >> * seasons - you can say ‘Spring 1986’ >> * first/last half/quarter (year, decade, century) etc >> Some might not be translatable to a period as I suggested above, but some >> may. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >> >> > > > -- > > - Scott MacLeod - Founder & President > > - http://worlduniversityandschool.org > > - 415 480 4577 > > - PO Box 442, (86 Ridgecrest Road), Canyon, CA 94516 > > - World University and School - like Wikipedia with best STEM-centric > OpenCourseWare - incorporated as a nonprofit university and school in > California, and is a U.S. 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt educational organization. > > > World University and School is sending you this because of your interest > in free, online, higher education. If you don't want to receive these, > please reply with 'unsubscribe' in the body of the email, leaving the > subject line intact. Thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > >
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