On 03.02.2016 12:44, John Erling Blad wrote:
It is a bit strange to defines a data type in terms of a library of
functions in another language.
Or is just me that thinks this is a bit odd?

What about MathML?

The arxiv report that Moritz posted (after you had already asked your question) says that he has improved the tooling to translate into MathML, so this is in the picture to some extent. I would not consider it as a workable input format (try writing in MathML! ;-). On the other hand, there is AsciiMathML, but I don't know how useful that is (and people know LaTeX much better). One could consider having MathML as the internal format, and AsciiMathML and LaTeX as input options for writing it, but this seems like a big project to get to work. I guess we can exclude the option of using a visual input interface for math (Microsoft tried that in Word once, they have a lot of developers, and yet ...).

Markus


On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Markus Krötzsch
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:

    For a consumer, the main practical questions would be:

    (1) What subset of LaTeX exactly do you need to support to display
    the math expressions in Wikidata?
    (2) As a follow up: does MathJAX work to display this? If not, what
    does?

    Cheers,

    Markus

    On 02.02.2016 10:01, Moritz Schubotz wrote:

        The string is interpreted by the math extension in the same way
        as the
        Math extension interprets the text between the <math /> tags.
        There is an API to extract identifiers and the packages required to
        render the input with regular latex from here:
        http://api.formulasearchengine.com/v1/?doc
        or also
        
https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/?doc#!/Math/post_media_math_check_type
        (The wikipedia endpoint has been opened to the public just
        moments ago)
        In the future, we are planning to provide additional semantics
        from there.
        If you have additional questions, please contact me directly,
        since I'm
        not a member on the list.
        Moritz

        On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Lydia Pintscher
        <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:

             On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 8:44 PM Markus Krötzsch
             <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>
             <mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:

                 On 01.02.2016 17:14, Lydia Pintscher wrote:
                  > Hey folks :)
                  >
                  > I just sat down with Katie to plan the next
        important feature
                  > deployments that are coming up this month. Here is
        the plan:
                  > * new datatype for mathematical expressions: We'll
        get it live on
                  > test.wikidata.org <http://test.wikidata.org>
        <http://test.wikidata.org>
                 <http://test.wikidata.org> tomorrow and then bring it
                  > to wikidata.org <http://wikidata.org>
        <http://wikidata.org> <http://wikidata.org>
                 on the 9th

                 Documentation? What will downstream users like us need
        to do to
                 support
                 this? How is this mapped to JSON? How is this mapped to
        RDF?


             It is a string representing markup for the Math extension.
        You can
             already test it here:
        http://wikidata.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Q117940.
             See also
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Displaying_a_formula.
             Maybe Moritz wants to say  bit more as his students created the
             datatype.

             Cheers
             Lydia
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