Am 05.02.2016 um 10:56 schrieb Markus Kroetzsch:
> On 04.02.2016 18:59, Daniel Kinzler wrote:
>> Am 04.02.2016 um 08:03 schrieb Markus Krötzsch:
>>> Data model updates are costly. Don't make them on a week's notice, without 
>>> prior
>>> discussion, and without having any documentation ready to give to data 
>>> users. It
>>> would also be good to announce breaking technical changes more prominently 
>>> on
>>> wikidata-tech as well.
>>
>> These have been discussed for months, if not years. Especially identifiers.
> 
> Citation needed ;-) Note that my emails were about math, not about the
> identifiers.

The ticket exists since May 2014 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67397>. I
didn't follow discussions on the wiki, but it has been up on
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Development_plan> since August 2015.

> Also, discussing about something is not enough. In the end, you
> need to give us the technical details so we can fix our tools. I knew that you
> planned to introduce identifier types, but I still don't know the RDF IRI for
> this new type.

I send the technical info in a separate mail. You are right that we should do
that kind of thing a bit earlier.

> No, sorry, this is just wrong. The datatypes are part of the model, not of the
> data. Changing the format of JSON to include new, hitherto unknown types might
> break a tool (and not break others). It will depend on the function of the 
> tool
> (and its implementation technique) but some will break.

I think there is a fundamental difference in the perception of format
specifications here. For software that consumes "mix and match" formats like
JSON and XML, I expect them to be written in a forward compatible way: unknown
things just get ignored.

I have written about this in a separate mail to wikidata-tech.


-- 
Daniel Kinzler
Senior Software Developer

Wikimedia Deutschland
Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V.

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