Hoi,
A question.. I do understand that proper i18n is essential. But the
localisation could be / should be done at translatewiki,net.
Thanks.
   GerardM

On 21 April 2016 at 18:17, Markus Kroetzsch <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On 21.04.2016 15:44, Neubert, Joachim wrote:
>
>> Just an idea for further extension: If the lang parameter would take a
>> list of languages, a fallback mechanism could be addressed. E.g.,
>> "&lang=de,en" could display German labels, or English, in case the former
>> are missing.
>>
>> Perhaps, such a mechanism could also incite people to translate labels or
>> descriptions into "their" languages.
>>
>
> Yes, Reasonator has this feature. Definitely very useful. The problem is
> that you need to remember if the language is the intended one or a
> substitute so you can highlight this to users. We are caching labels in the
> browser to speed up rendering, and this would require some changes there to
> keep this extra information in the cache. Doable, but a bit of work still.
> My first goal will be to provide full i18n and l10n for more languages.
>
>
> Markus
>
>
>> Cheers, Joachim
>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: Wikidata [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag
>>> von
>>> Markus Kroetzsch
>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. April 2016 10:49
>>> An: Discussion list for the Wikidata project.
>>> Betreff: Re: [Wikidata] SQID: the new "Wikidata classes and properties
>>> browser"
>>>
>>> On 21.04.2016 10:22, Neubert, Joachim wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Markus,
>>>>
>>>> Great work!
>>>>
>>>> One short question: Is there a way to switch to labels and descriptions
>>>> in
>>>>
>>> another language, by URL or otherwise?
>>>
>>> This feature is not fully implemented yet, but there is partial support
>>> for the
>>> that can be tried out already. To use it, add the "lang="
>>> parameter to the view URLs, like so:
>>>
>>> http://tools.wmflabs.org/sqid/#/view?id=Q1339&lang=de
>>>
>>> Once you did this, all links will retain this setting, so you can
>>> happily browse
>>> along.
>>>
>>> Limitations:
>>> * It only works for the entity view perspective, not for the property
>>> and class
>>> browser
>>> * All labels will be translated to any language (if available), but the
>>> application
>>> interface right now is only available in English and German
>>>
>>> The feature will be extended further in the future, including support
>>> for user-
>>> provided interface translations.
>>>
>>> Markus
>>>
>>>
>>>> Cheers, Joachim
>>>>
>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>> Von: Wikidata [mailto:[email protected]] Im
>>>>> Auftrag von Markus Kroetzsch
>>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. April 2016 21:45
>>>>> An: Discussion list for the Wikidata project.
>>>>> Betreff: [Wikidata] SQID: the new "Wikidata classes and properties
>>>>> browser"
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> As promised a while ago, we have reworked our "Wikidata Classes and
>>>>> Properties" browser. I am happy to introduce the first beta version
>>>>> of a new app, called SQID:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tools.wmflabs.org/sqid/
>>>>>
>>>>> It is a complete rewrite of the earlier application. Much faster,
>>>>> more usable, much more up-to-date information, supported on all
>>>>> reasonable browsers, and with tons of new features. Try it yourself,
>>>>> or read on for the main functions and current dev plans:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> == Browse classes and properties ==
>>>>>
>>>>> You can use it to find properties and class items by all kinds of
>>>>> filtering
>>>>>
>>>> settings:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> http://tools.wmflabs.org/sqid/#/browse?type=properties
>>>>> http://tools.wmflabs.org/sqid/#/browse?type=classes
>>>>>
>>>>> New features:
>>>>> * Sort results by a criterion of choice
>>>>> * Powerful, easy-to-use filtering interface
>>>>> * Search properties by label, datatype, qualifiers used, or
>>>>> co-occurring properties
>>>>> * Search classes by label, (indirect) superclass or by properties
>>>>> used on instances of the class
>>>>> * All property statistics and some class statistics are updated every
>>>>> hour
>>>>>
>>>>> == View Wikidata entities ==
>>>>>
>>>>> The goal was to have a page for every property and every class, but
>>>>> we ended up having a generic data browser that can show all (live)
>>>>> data + some additional data for classes and properties (this is our
>>>>> main goal, but the other data is often helpful to understand the
>>>>> context). The UI is modelled after Reasonator as the quasi-standard
>>>>> of how Wikidata should look, but if you look beyond the surface you
>>>>> can see many differences in what SQID will (or will not) display.
>>>>>
>>>>> Examples:
>>>>> * Dresden, a plain item with a lot of data:
>>>>>      http://tools.wmflabs.org/sqid/#/view?id=Q1731
>>>>> * Volcano, a class with many subclasses:
>>>>>      http://tools.wmflabs.org/sqid/#/view?id=Q8072
>>>>> * sex or gender, a frequently used property:
>>>>>      http://tools.wmflabs.org/sqid/#/view?id=P21
>>>>>
>>>>> Notable features:
>>>>> * Fast display
>>>>> * All statement data with all qualifiers shown
>>>>> * Extra statistical and live query data embedded
>>>>>
>>>>> == General Wikidata statistics ==
>>>>>
>>>>> As a minor feature, we also publish statistics on the weekly full
>>>>> Wikidata dump (which we process to get some of the statistics):
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tools.wmflabs.org/sqid/#/status
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't trust the main page -- find out how many entities there really
>>>>> are ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> == Plans, todos, feedback, contributions ==
>>>>>
>>>>> We are on github, so please make feature requests and bug reports
>>>>> there:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/Wikidata/WikidataClassBrowser/issues
>>>>>
>>>>> Pull requests are welcome too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Known limitations of the current version:
>>>>>
>>>>> * Data update still a bit shaky. We refresh most statistical data
>>>>> every hour (entity data is live anyway), but you may not see this
>>>>> unless you clear your browser cache. This will be easier in the future.
>>>>> * Entity data browser does not show sitelinks and references yet.
>>>>> * Incoming properties not shown yet on entity pages
>>>>> * I18N not complete yet (if you would like to try the current dev
>>>>> status, see,
>>>>> e.g.: http://tools.wmflabs.org/sqid/#/view?id=Q318&lang=de)
>>>>>
>>>>> Moreover, we are also planning to integrate more data displays,
>>>>> better live statistics, and editing capabilities. Developers who want
>>>>> to help there are welcome. SQID can also be a platform for other data
>>>>> display ideas (it's built using AngularJS, so integration is easy).
>>>>>
>>>>> == And what about Miga? ==
>>>>>
>>>>> The old Miga-based app at
>>>>> http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-exports/miga/ will be retired in due
>>>>>
>>>> course.
>>>
>>>> Please update your links.
>>>>>
>>>>> == Credits ==
>>>>>
>>>>> I have had important development support from Markus Damm, Michael
>>>>> Günther and Georg Wild. We are funded by the German Research
>>>>> Foundation DFG. All of us are at TU Dresden. Complex statistics are
>>>>> computed with Wikidata Toolkit. Live query results come from the
>>>>> Wikidata SPARQL Query Service.
>>>>>
>>>>> Enjoy,
>>>>>
>>>>> Markus
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Markus Kroetzsch
>>>>> Faculty of Computer Science
>>>>> Technische Universität Dresden
>>>>> +49 351 463 38486
>>>>> http://korrekt.org/
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