Or maybe instead of locking things down, we could do things the wiki way and just make it easier to patrol changes. Value changes to sourced statements could be tagged by AbuseFilter, for example.
-- Yair Rand On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 12:03 PM, John Mark Vandenberg <[email protected]> wrote: > Or a new right, required to alter a statement that has a citation? > On 9 Jun 2016 20:41, "john cummings" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I have been experiencing something similar although I would not call it >> vandalism, just changing things that are official statistics to something >> that is not and merging items that are not the same thing. I have recently >> been importing information on the UNESCO Biosphere Reserves to Wikidata >> with Navino Evans that includes referencing everything to the official site >> descriptions on the UNESCO website (he's been doing all the actual work, I >> mainly offer manual labour and make the tea). People have been replacing >> the official statistics e.g the coordinates submitted to UNESCO as part of >> the inscription process with coordinates with no references and also >> merging sites that are not the same thing (usually similar sounding sites >> in China and Russia). This is annoying for two reasons: >> >> 1. Its making Wikidata less accrurate >> 2. Its breaking our import spreadsheets meaning we have to use queries to >> guess at possible reasons why things have broken which takes a really long >> time and then I have to fix them. >> >> Since we completed the import a few days ago the data has already started >> to drift with manual additions and changes from other users. I wonder if >> there is some equivalent of the Wikipedia protected page that could be used >> to reduce this issue? I don't know what this would look like but it seems >> as though it may be needed. Perhaps another model to use would be the >> proofreading mechanism from Wikisource? >> >> Thanks >> >> John >> >> >> >> >> On 9 June 2016 at 15:25, Julie McMurry <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> How big a problem is fact vandalism? It may be less likely to be >>> detected/fixed in languages for which there are fewer editors. Only if a >>> big problem, I'd suggest that specific text (not whole articles) be >>> protected, but not locked. Eg implementing a requirement for confirmation >>> by multiple editors before it is published. A lock would be too likely >>> to thwart legitimate edits and could be abused by moderators. >>> >>> Some ostensibly hard facts do in fact change over time. Even the >>> measurement of the mass of the electron took years to perfect. >>> >>> Julie >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, June 8, 2016, Biyanto Rebin <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> Wikidata is a great collaboration of database, I love it, but sometimes >>>> when I encounter some vandalism, it makes me so angry. Just like today, >>>> I've found Q879704 <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q879704>, the label, >>>> description and alias in Indonesian (ID) is vandal into something else and >>>> it was happened in 2014 >>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/202.67.33.46>! >>>> >>>> Now, I'm just curious, will everyone agree if (maybe) in the future >>>> Wikidata team can lock some cell that already fix? For example Javanese >>>> (Q33549) = P31: language (Q315). Or we just let the Wikidata always open >>>> for everyone to edit? >>>> >>>> PS: I'm making WikiProjects Languages in Indonesia >>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Languages_in_Indonesia>, >>>> anyone who want to join please let me know :) >>>> >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Biyanto Rebin | Ketua Umum (*Chair*) 2016-2018 >>>> Wikimedia Indonesia >>>> Nomor Ponsel: +62 8989 037379 >>>> Surel: [email protected] >>>> ~~~~ >>>> >>>> Dukung upaya kami membebaskan pengetahuan: >>>> http://wikimedia.or.id/wiki/Wikimedia_Indonesia:Donasi >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ---------------------------------- >>> [email protected] +1 805 455 5877 skype: mcmurry.julie git: >>> jmcmurry >>> ---------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > >
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