Gerard's point that the items are typically found in Wikimedia Commons I think is key. If the item is part of a sister project to Wikidata then it has a corresponding place on Wikidata. Unless I misunderstand the interoperability and mission of Wikidata.
Also: I am not a fan of deleting content -- especially content that is curated, focused, captures a time and place, incorporates hard work on projects especially as it relates to a Wikimedia project. To me this is not defensible. So deleting entries seems similar to my experience with Wikipedia editors hostile to added content focused on deletionism -- of course to a notable women's page where I as an editor am trying to establish said notability -- who characterize the information as yes, "too encyclopedic." #Ridiculous I wish this wasn't true. So I agree with Gerard and others here. - Erika > On Jul 31, 2016, at 11:42 AM, Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hoi, > There are several things at play. First, Wikimania and its talks will find > its place in Wikidata because typically much of the papers, presentations and > registrations will be found in Commons. So they will be registered anyway. > Second, this thread is also about the way our policies are maintained. This > is done in an arbitrary way and consequently much of the arguments based on > policies have lost much of their validity. Third, the number of items > involved is so low that it not even registers. When other conferences like > TED find their way, it is not a problem so why should granularity be a > problem now? > > When people want to know about how we think about what we do, the Wikimania > talks is a prime resource. Papers are published about what we do. We could > easily refer people to Wikimania and other talks. We could and should because > it makes sense to do so. In the end it is our history. > Thanks, > GerardM > >> On 31 July 2016 at 17:25, Daniel Kinzler <[email protected]> wrote: >> Am 31.07.2016 um 17:04 schrieb Gerard Meijssen: >> > Hoi, >> > I am not to judge what conferences will be deemed relevant for an item in >> > Wikidata. When a conference is relevant, it is the talks and particularly >> > the >> > registrations of the talks, the papers and the presentations that make the >> > conference relevant after the fact. >> >> So you think that for every relevant conference, all talks and speakers >> should >> automatically be considered relevant? Does the same aregument apply to all >> courses and theachers at all relevant universities and schools? >> >> I'm trying to understand your point. To me it's a question of granularity. We >> can't manage arbitrarily fine grained information, so we have to stop at some >> point. What do you think, where should that point be for Wikimania, for other >> (relevant) conferences, for universities, for schools? >> >> -- >> Daniel Kinzler >> Senior Software Developer >> >> Wikimedia Deutschland >> Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
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